"The Law" as used in Romans 2-7

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    In Romans 2-7 I find that the term "law" is used only in two senses. In the narrow sense of the Mosiac Law Covenant (moral, civil, ceremonial) and in more general sense of law as a principle as contrasted to faith as a principle.

    1. The whole Mosaic Law
    2. Law as a principle in contrast to faith as a principle

    Significantly in the narrower sense it is always inclusive of the moral law and NEVER used merely for the ceremonial law.
     
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    The differentiation between moral law and ceremonial law is a Christian invention. Further, Christianity makes the division to conform to denominational theology and not according to any logical system.

    For 20 years I have put out the challenge to provide a list of moral and ceremonial components.

    google 613 laws for a list.
     
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    I agree that the Law of Moses is the ten commandments applied to the religious and civil aspects of the Jewish nation. Jesus reduced all the law down to the two tables (Mt. 7:12) to love God and your neighbor as yourself and then further reduced those two down to one word "love."
     
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    It is a mistake and a calculated mistake that "the law" speaks exclusively to the Jew but rather Romans 2-3 uses "the law" as inclusive of all lesser manifestations of God's righteousness including the law as it is revealed in conscience and in nature and Romans 3:9-21 proves this unquestionably.

    The universal terminology "every mouth" and "all the world" and "no flesh" repudiate the restricted view of "the law" to Jews only. The Law given to Moses is the most comprehensive form of the revelation of God's righteousness among men and as thus is inclusive of and comprehensive of all lesser manifestations of the same rule of God's righteousness.
     
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    Really?

    Jesus Christ repeated all 10 commandments of the decologue as binding, but yet he also declared all meets clean - so there is a destinction in the law given to us by the Lord Jesus Christ himself.
     
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    key thing to remember in the law is that "if break one, held guilty of breking all", and that " none shall be justified before God by keeping the law, as NONE but jesus can!"
     
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    Torah plainly teaches prior to before the Gold Cow incident ALL the people of Israel were to be priests to the gentiles and to convert the world to Torah. They blew it.
     
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    there "meant" by God to 'blow it", as the Cross of yeshua had been predetermined by god before the foundation of the world was laid!
     
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    "I agree that the Law of Moses is the ten commandments applied to the religious and civil aspects of the Jewish nation. Jesus reduced all the law down to the two tables (Mt. 7:12) to love God and your neighbor as yourself and then further reduced those two down to one word "love"."

    AGREE! Then the possibility/probability of one's salvation should judged on how they treat their neighbors and not because they did nor did not say a an official phrase in church.
     
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    You are forgetting one very important thing! The Law was never ever given by God to justify, save, maintain or obtain eternal life. It was given to educate man in regard to the knowledge of sin.

    You can judge Christ's personal condition by the Law but you cannot judge the salvation of sinners simply because no sinner keeps the law and no saved person keeps the law's standard any more than they did before they were saved. The standard is "be ye therefore perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect" and that standard does not change. That is why salvation cannot be obtained, sustained or justified by the law.
     
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    the ONLY way one can get right with God is by receiving jesus , as NONE wil or can be justified by their 'good works!"
     

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