The Lord Jesus Christ drank new wine.

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  1. makahiya117

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    New wine is found in the cluster of grapes.
    KJV Isaiah 65:8 . . . new wine is found in the cluster . . .
    KJV Joel 3:18 . . . the mountains shall drop down new wine . . .

    Grape juice is called new wine.
    KJV Proverbs 3:10 . . . thy presses shall burst out with new wine . . .

    The Lord Jesus Christ drank new wine.
    KJV Mathew 26:29 But I say unto you,
    I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine,
    until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.
    KJV Mark 14:25 . . . fruit of the vine . . .
    KJV Luke 22:18 . . . fruit of the vine . . .

    As Joseph pressed grape juice into a cup.
    KJV Genesis 40:11 I took the grapes,
    and pressed them into Pharaoh’s cup . . .

    Sanctified O.T. Jews were forbidden to drink fermented wine.
    KJV Leviticus 10:9 Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee,
    when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die:
    it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations:
    KJV Deuteronomy 29:6 Ye have not eaten bread, neither have ye drunk wine
    or strong drink: that ye might know that I am the LORD your God.

    O.T. Priests were forbidden to drink fermented wine.
    KJV Ezekiel 44:21 Neither shall any priest drink wine . . .

    O.T. Kings were forbidden to drink fermented wine.
    KJV Proverbs 31:4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel,
    it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:

    N.T. Christians are kings and priests unto God.
    KJV Revelation 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God
    and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

    Statements about drunkards.
    KJV Proverbs 23:21 For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty:
    and drowsiness shall clothe a man with rags.
    KJV Proverbs 20:1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging:
    and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.
    KJV Deuteronomy 32:33 Their wine is the poison of dragons,
    and the cruel venom of asps.

    Drunkards are sorrowful and contentious.
    KJV Proverbs 23:29-30
    29 Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions?
    who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause?
    who hath redness of eyes?
    30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.

    Fermented wine (alcohol) is like a serpent.
    KJV Proverbs 23:32 At the last it biteth like a serpent,
    and stingeth like an adder.

    Fermented wine (alcohol) perverts the heart.
    KJV Proverbs 23:33 Thine eyes shall behold strange women,
    and thine heart shall utter perverse things.

    Fermented wine (alcohol) is violent and addictive.
    KJV Proverbs 23:34-35
    34 Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea,
    or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast.
    35 They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick;
    they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake?
    I will seek it yet again.

    Christians are commanded not to look upon fermented wine (alcohol).
    KJV Proverbs 23:31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red,
    when it giveth his colour in the, when it moveth itself aright.
    KJV Proverbs 23:20 Be not among wine-bibbers . . .
     
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    Here we go again :BangHead:
     
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    Yes, and I don't think I'm going to play this time. I suspect that any rebuttal will be greeted with another copy-and-paste job of the contents of the OP.
     
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    Agreed...with the resident holier-than-thou's chiming in.
     
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    I'm 18 yrs postdoctoral Ed.D. in higher education.

    What I post I wrote.
     
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    Now I'm shaking in my boots :D. Someone with that much experience should have more wisdom and a better hermeneutic concerning the 244 times alcohol is found in the Bible.
     
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    Post your statement about alcohol, I'll read it.
     
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    For some reason that got me in a laughing jig. I'm 18 years your senior. Better start trembling.
     
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    There are 244 of them found in the Bible dealing with both blessings, curses and warnings. I don't have that kind of time to put each one in its proper context, and I'm guessing it wouldn't matter anyway to those that teach a hard line abstinence position. Given your summaries highlighted above, I'll pass.
     
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    Is that supposed to be a variation of the words of Pilate? "What I have written, I have written?"
     
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    KJV But foolish and unlearned questions avoid,
    knowing that they do gender strifes.
     
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    Web....If you ever get to the NY Metro Area, please let me know. I will by you a beer!
     
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    Yoda - "you must unlearn what you have learned"
     
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    KJV Proverbs 20:1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging:
    and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.
     
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    LOL! And in this case, so true!
     
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    I said beer....not wine.
     
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    KJV Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
     
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    Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
     
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    One of the reasons one shouldn't engage the op :)
     
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    KJV But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
     
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