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Discussion in 'History Forum' started by Bob Hope, Nov 14, 2012.
I'm on part 3 and my goodness, this is a must watch
2 Chronicles 10:19 (KJV)
And Israel rebelled against the house of David unto this day.
he kept saying that "wheat production" was one of the key blessing indicators, and said a few times, "right under OUR noses" so by pat 2 I figured he was pointing to the USA.
But as it is written, a Jew is one of heart and not of the flesh; a heart that has been circumcised by the Holy Spirit.
From a historical perspective, what he says sure does seem to add up.
Any DNA evidence?
Human Genome Project seems to indicate that it's not that simple:
Its not as tough as you might think. Did you watch the videos?
Bob, I've had several books on this topic for at least 25-30 years, you might find of interest. First cassette tapes I ever heard on it was 1985. There are several denominations that embrace this teaching, Church of God, I believe is one, and of course the Mormons do. There are also some Jewish people in Israel who believe it, as well. (I used to have a whole list of web sites, several computers ago.)
Also, here are a few of web sites:
Thanks for the links, I will save them and check them out.
LOL, that's funny, human nature at its finest.
Be careful when you explore some links on this topic on the Internet, some promote a form of replacement theology.
At this point I don't even know who would be getting replaced. I've been reading this book given to me by a jewish friend, he’s the same one to show me these videos. It’s called Israel: Our Duty... Our Dilemma: by Pastor Ted Pike. He got it from Texe Marrs. The opening question was who Israel is today. I must say that I've more questions than answers. One thing I came away with, it would seem after almost 3000 years that no one can say with any certainty that they are related to Abraham.
If I remember correctly, Texe Marrs believes in replacement theology - that the church replaced Israel. He has gone off the deep end, IMO.
And this is the challenge for contemporary discussions. Israel as the OT nation ceased to exist functionally when the Temple was destroyed in AD 70. However, it had begun a slow process of dismantling itself at the divided kingdom stage.
We must separate political Israel from spiritual Israel. The Israel of today is not the same as the Old Testament Israel. They bear little similar identity other than the remnants of the tribe of Judah.
So where did those Israelites go? That is the crux of this thread.
26 And he said, Blessed be Jehovah, the God of Shem......
27 God enlarge Japheth, And let him dwell in the tents of Shem...... Gen 9
Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and shall be given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. Mt 21:43
28 There shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and yourselves cast forth without.
29 And they shall come from the east and west, and from the north and south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God. Lu 13
11 And I say unto you, that many shall come from the east and the west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven:
12 but the sons of the kingdom shall be cast forth into the outer darkness: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth. Mt 8
If that's not being 'replaced' I guess I don't understand the word.
Proof texting as usual.
If you want to discuss the pros and cons of replacement theology, please take it to the appropriate forum. My statement re: replacement theology was only an admonition to the OP to be careful of the web sites; it was not an open door to derail the thread. This thread is about the migration of the Israelites, not the spiritual implications. Thanks in advance from your "extremely biased" moderator who "encourages extreme notions such as this." (your words)
Your welcome, I call it the way I see it.
Anyone who buys this stuff should consider joining the LDS.
sorry 'bout posting this on a restricted thread
>Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East share a very similar gene pool and must be considered closely related and not genetically separate
Well, they are all "children" of Abraham.
On the other hand,
The fascinating story of how DNA studies confirm an ancient biblical tradition.
. . . Cohanim (plural of Cohen) are the priestly family of the Jewish people, members of the Tribe of Levi.The books of Exodus and Leviticus describe the responsibilities of the Cohanim, which include the Temple service and blessing of the people. The Torah (the first five books of the Bible) describes the anointing of Aaron, the brother of Moses, as the first High Priest (Cohen Gadol).
Jewish tradition, based on the Torah, is that all Cohanim are direct descendants of Aaron, the brother of Moses. The Cohen line is patrilineal -- passed from father to son without interruption for 3,300 years, or more than 100 generations. . .