Looking over the curriculum of most MDiv programs I have often wondered if it should be made an undergraduate program instead of a graduate program. Most courses in the MDiv program are introductory level courses that probably fit better with an undergraduate curriculum. At the graduate level, the M.A. should be the standard, then the Th.M., D.Min., and Ph.D. I believe this would allow for a more advance set of graduate programs better targeted at serious students of theology. As it is now, many "graduate" courses at seminaries are little more than undergraduate courses with graduate course numbers attached. Most seminary curriculums I have been a part of (SEBTS, LU) and have examined (curriculum, syllabi, etc) do not seem to be on the graduate level. This could explain why I, and others, who have gone on to do a secular graduate program found the secular program to be far more challenging than the seminary program. The result of this is too many preachers running around with "graduate" degrees who have not done generally expected graduate work (no thesis, no graduate research, no graduate committee, etc). What does everyone here think of this? Why do you think my idea is good or bad? How would we go about getting seminaries to change their programs?