I grew up being fed an official line that Washington and Lincoln were the two greatest presidents (hey, we even got BOTH their birthdays off school). And focus on Lincoln as "Christlike" and almost "Messianic" continued into the Christian School movement of the 1970-1980's among conservative christians. Discussion on that? Politically, I liken Lincoln to FDR because of his destruction of rights and expansion of federalism. Discusion on that? Moral Character (lying, deceit, etc) I liken Lincoln much closer to Clinton. Discussion on that? Down the way I will share some facts for my reasoning, but right now open this for your discussion.