I've got a thought for everyone. Just a thought...maybe a concern, but I'm not bashing seminaries, or their undergraduates, in any way. Have you ever considered that the current model of training/preparing pastors/missionaries, etc. has become worldly? Consider the what our world looks for to achieve success and gain. It takes degrees, experience, internships, etc. I wonder if the seminaries are attempting to do the job that a local church ought to be doing. That is not only discipling new believers, but confirming with that believer's desire to be in the ministry by....actually letting them do ministry at the church. My home church in St. Louis, MO is a good example. The adult minister use to work in the secular world only 6 years ago, or so. He began serving as a leader with Middle School, believed God wanted him to serve the local church full-time, was mentored by the Youth Pastor and Senior Pastor, then became the Middle School Pastor, and now is a Pastor to Adults. The current children's minister is now in his position with a very similar story. He was very successful in marketing, but through serving in the youth ministry heard God telling him to do something else in his life. There are many others in that church that have stories like this. A combination of believing in Christ, being discipled and mentored by fellow believers and Pastors, listening to God, and being prepared by the church. It seems a little more reflective of how leaders became leaders in the early church. Now, this is not at all to say that seminary is not helpful. In fact, these two men I mentioned have returned to school for further education part time, but the process was much more interactive with the local church's guidance and preparation. The process has turned into leaving the youth group to go to Bible college, from there accepting internships to gain experience, from there to going immediately to Seminary for further degrees (after all, that does make you more qualified, does it not?), and continuing to put your family through financial hardship to pursue a Ph.d so you can get in with the mega-church to make the bigger salary (or even worse, delaying a marriage/family for the sake of a degree). I would never accuse people for intentionally making it this way...but is it not obvious that it has become this way? We are selecting ministers and dubbing them qualified as if we are a business looking for the most success. Hard to argue against, I think. Scary.