The New Calvinism

Actually, not bad for an obvious non-Calvinist. His description of Calvinism and predestination are close but not quite; but shoot, most other non-Cals don't get it right,either.

Even the Cals can't always agree with each other.

 

I just commented on a virtual friends blog on this very thing.

Until they both see the doctrines of grace differently, I don't see the point.

 

Didn't some already get burned during Calvin's day











without the effigy thingie?? :tear:

Ed

 

I have some good friends who are in the "New Calvinist" area. They've got some great ministries going too.

There is a pretty big push amongst younger evangelicals towards this movement. This is because many of their primary communicators have roots in the Passion movement and conferences.

BTW, I can't wait to celebrate Calvin's 500 Birthday!

 

That isn't funny, especially considering you're an administrator.

 

I would take that more as an issue with John Calvin himself not his theology.

 

My comment here is not about the OP but your comment Dale:

Are you saying that Servetus was not burned for heresy?

...And - that the ruling body who determined the judgment of burning him to death was not specifically the Reformed/Calvinists?


It isn't rhetoric but fact. Now whether or not John Calvin was specifically involved in burning is another matter altogether.

 

"Brethren come out every now and then in the religious world so splendidly with some new fad and fancy of theirs, some grand discovery that they have made, some wonderful point of doctrine, some marvellous soul-stirring discovery, as it seems to be to them; and all the world is to stand still, and all the churches to be broken up, and I don't know what, until they have exhibited this precious thing, which when you have carefully looked at it, turns out to be very like the mouse which was the famous product of the labour of the mountain. It comes to nothing more. There is very much rubbish about, brethren; and, therefore, for the present distress, if every Christian minister were to keep to preaching Christ and him crucified, and nothing else, I think he would do well; and if every Christian man were to just keep to the plain truths of Scripture, and have them worked into his own soul by the Holy Spirit, and then speak them out with power, and live for soul-winning, and care for nothing else, he would do well." ---Charles Spurgeon

 

I think we're saying the same thing basically. Burning Servetus reflected on Calvin the man not Calvinism. However, I don't care what the prevailing political winds might be I don't believe God wants us to put to death those who have a different theological viewpoint especially if it's Christian.

 

And when someone attacked salvation by grace it was considered a false worship of man (which it, of course, is) and satanic in origin.

Is that how you feel about brothers and sisters in Christ today who don't fully hold to the doctrines of grace?

 

If I recall correctly from my days when I was in seminary ( a Presbyterian seminary which taught calvinism) Calvin ( at this point in time I forget if it was Calvin or the folks who held his view) wanted Servetus put to death on secular charges but the court put him to death on religious charges.

 

I am confused. Can God's grace reach "anyone", or just the elect?

AJ