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The new Evangelical left erects conservative strawman

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Revmitchell, Feb 14, 2008.

  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
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    Paul Edwards has a must-read article on Townhall.com today. The most important thing he says is this:
    “The Religious Left is successfully redefining what it means to be a conservative evangelical bymisrepresenting what it means to be a conservative evangelical.”
    His next most important point is this:
    “The new voices of the Religious Left – Rick Warren, Joel Hunter, Tony Campolo, Jim Wallis, et al – are defining down what it means to be an evangelical by making the symptoms of man’s sin (poverty, disease, etc.) a priority rather than addressing the cause of those symptoms (sin) and the cure found in the gospel of Jesus Christ.”


    http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?p=328
     
  2. Joshua Rhodes

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    Everyone run and hide!! They're out to get us!!! :eek:
     
  3. Crabtownboy

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    Y'all read the article and I think you will see that the original post has twisted what is really said. :tonofbricks:
     
  4. donnA

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    Your right, the op misrepresents what the article is saying,
    The article is not by Paul Edwards, but he is quoted in the article.
    Purposely misreprsenting is lying.
     
  5. preachinjesus

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    We should be ashamed of ourselves if we really lump these people together under one banner. What is wrong with evangelical Christianity? Why must we constantly be willing to tell people what we're against rather than what we're for?
     
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    What's the point of continually posting pieces of articles that clearly have an agenda towards a group...then not making any comment?

    Shouldn't that be in the news forum?
     
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    you would think so.
     
  8. J.D.

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    The article was written by Paul Edwards, who in turn quotes Dr. Joel Hunter in the italics. I read the whole article and I don't see any misrepresentation of what he said in the OP. I found it a stellar articulation of my own views.
     
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    At the link given by the op, is quotes only, and was written by someone named Ingrid.
     
  10. Revmitchell

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    There has been no misrepresentation or lying.
     
  11. Beth

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    I like Ingrid

    She is pretty careful to check her facts before posting on her site.
     
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    I didn't click on Ingrid's link, I clicked on the direct link to the article. I don't see how Ingrid's intro affects anything anyway. Her quotation is cut and paste from the article.
     
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    I don't know one way or the other. However I do know that people would be much better off listening to solid Biblical teaching. That should come from their pastor (in their home church). They should also listen to/watch godly men such as Charles Stanley, John MacArthur, David Jeremiah, D James Kennedy, and people like that. These new "fads" will not last and if they do last they will only end up leading people away from the Biblical Gospel. People like MacArthur and Stanley have their differences but at the end of the day men like that are far more trustworthy than men who ride on the coattails of fads (ie...Rick Warren). Trust me on this, people who are going around after folks like Warren will end up disappointed and confused.
     
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    Evangelicals Caught up in Worldliness...

    Irregardless of who wrote this article...it seems to me that Rev. Mitchell has a good point. Evangelicals need to get back to preaching Jesus and getting folks saved. Politics and evangelism do not mix. The government has one thing correct. There should be a separation of church and state WITHIN the church and the NAE. Our efforts to endorse one political candidate or another will only end up embarrassing us in the end. Bush should serve as an example for the ages.
     
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    Actually, that's not the point that's being made here at all. The author of this article is trying to make the point that the Evangelical "Right" can and has matched the Evangelical "Left" in their zeal to confront poverty, HIV/AIDS, and the environment. Many posters here who have made the point that we as Christians have the responsibility to love our neighbors and help them with their physical needs are promptly identified as push a social gospel. Personally, I think it would be great if more Christians recognized this responsibility. The author seems to think they already do. I'm not exactly sure how he hijacked the Salvation Army and made it a part of his argument.

    I really think we would all be much better off if we dropped the terms right and left with respect to our faith. The Lord doesn't see it that way. To Him there are the saved and the lost.
     
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