The New Hymns - I love them too!

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  1. Joshua Rhodes

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    Not to be argumentative, but there are several new hymns to be written in the last 10 years that are excellent. A new one I heard recently was called "The Power of the Cross," by Keith Getty and Stuart Townend. Actually, they also have another called "In Christ Alone" and there are others. Don't discredit something because of its age. Some older hymns are wonderful, but that doesn't automatically mean the younger ones aren't.
     
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    A fave of mine...

    "The Highest Glory" by Mark Altrogge/Bob Kauflin.

    Glad absolutely rocks this song. Good message, good harmonies.
     
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    I dont think I have heard any of these, are there links to them on the web?
     
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    hymns, as in a hymnal?

    I have noticed that some in ohter threads have confused hymns with other types of songs. I would love to see/hear some new hymns too!!
     
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    Their arrangement of the old hymn, "Before the Throne of God Above" is super.

    (select track 4)

    OK, TT, what makes a hymn a "hymn?" It's inclusion in a hymn book? Number of verses? I've often wondered that...
     
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    its the musical form from what I remember from my hymnology classes

    I think even those hymns in scripture had a certain form
     
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    Highest Glory does not sound like a hymn at all. Sounds more like Contemporary Worship than a Hymn
     
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    What does a hymn sound like?
     
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    Now, this surprised me. I expected the definition of hymn to be something about a song written in 4 part harmony for singing at church, or something along those lines. Check out the definition of hymn.

    1. A song of praise or thanksgiving to God or a deity.
    2. A song of praise or joy; a paean.


    Could we consider some songs termed "Contemporary Christian Music" to be hymns? Why yes, I think we could.
     
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    I was surprised by the definitions! When Pastor asked what a hymn sounded like, I realized I didn't have a clear definition and googled it. The definitions were a page long and all sounded like the two you listed.

    So anything we sing as worship or praise is a hymn. Amazing [​IMG]
     
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    The songs I listed in the OP probably would sound contemporary in nature... probably because they were written recently. But they are no less hymns than ones written 400 years ago. Stuart Townend is a "contemporary" or "modern" hymn writer. Do a Google search for the lyrics to those songs above. You'll see lyrically they're very much hymns.
     
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    I think "Above All" will be a classic hymn in 400 yrs.
     
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    Contemporary music at least 30 years ago.
     
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    Actually, a hymn is usually typified by the text. There is a certain musicial form associated with a hymn, but that form can be adapted for both church hymns and secular hymn useage. A hymn text is usually defined as "...a poetic statement of personal religious encounter or insight, universal in its truth, and suitable for corporate expression when sung in stanzas to a hymn tune." (Austin C. Lovelace,The Anatomy of Hymnody, Chicago: G.I.A Productions, 1965. Page 5)

    You can find hymn texts in the Scriptures, but not the musical forms. Some argue (including myself) that due to this, the musical form of the hymn is allowed to change, but the hymn-text itself must always contain an interaction with God, either on a objective level (what one might refer to as vertical worship) or a subjective level (or horizontal worship).
     
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    So...fifty years from now...what will be considered "hymns" that are currently "choruses?"

    I think that much of Gaither's old work is now considered "hymns." In 2056, what songs that are currently on the "chorus" list will be "old standards of the faith?"

    Point of clarification: I want the "old standards" to continue on to the next generation as well. A few weeks ago, one of our student praise bands did an arrangement of "Be Thou My Vision" with Celtic drums and a bagpipe. How's that for old school?
     
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    I fully expect that in 2056, there will be those on the BB, in whatever form it takes, complaining about all the new music and longing for the days of the "old standards" that we had back in the good old days of 2006. :D
     
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    We'll be rappin' Amazing Grace in 2056.

    Amazin, amazin, amazin ggggrrrace.
    How-wow-wow-wow sweeeeettttt the soun'
    tha savd a-a doogg like me.

    Nicedaady-Rob
     
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    Fo shizzle my Robizzle
     

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