The Nine Demands of Liberalism

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  1. fromtheright

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    ...published by Francis Abbott, founder of the National Liberal League, in 1873:

    1. Churches and other ecclesiastical property no longer be exempt from taxation.
    2. The employment of chaplains in Congress, the state legislatures, the military, prisons, asylums and other public institutions be discontinued.
    3. All public appropriations for sectarian education or charity shall cease.
    4. All religious services sustained by government be abolished, and the use of the Bible in public schools, as a text book or as a religious exercise, shall cease.
    5. The president and all governors shall not declare religious festivals or fast days.
    6. The judicial oath be replaced by a simple affirmation.
    7. Laws directly or indirectly enforcing the Sabbath as a day of worship be abolished.
    8. All laws enforcing "Christian" morality be abolished, and that only laws which conform to natural morality, equal rights, and impartial liberty be enforced.
    9. In the Constitution of the United States and of all the states, no privilege shall be conceded to any religion¸ and our entire political system shall be secular.

    as paraphrased in this website

    The full text of the list can be found in Philip Hamburger's Separation of Church and State, page 294, note 21.
     
  2. Daisy

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    Modern Liberals seem to have strayed quite a distance from that. Most today are not such strict separationsists.

    - aside: As for 'religious' holidays, the more I get off work, the merrier I become!
     
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    When growing up, we enjoyed Lincoln's birthday and Washington's birthday as holidays.

    But, of course, these were demoted to "Presidents Day" and King's birthday (darling of the liberals of today) added.

    One of the aims of liberalism seems to be working.
     
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    We still get Lincoln's birthday where I work (as well as MLK Day), but Washington's has been rolled into Presidents' Day.

    That doesn't follow...Lincoln & Washington are secular rather than religious fellows while King was a baptist preacher.
     
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    When I was a student at SWBTS they didn't observe a number of the holidays.
     
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    Modern Liberals seem to have strayed quite a distance from that. Most today are not such strict separationsists.

    C'mon, Daisy, you can't be serious. It is modern liberals who have accomplished most of the goals listed, and the more modern the harder they have pushed to scratch the rest of them off the list.
     
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    As a Baptist and therefore as a rejecter of the concept of 'Christendom' and a believer that the state should be secular and neutral in matters of religion (it should neither promote nor prohibit the expression of religion), I have little problem in theory with the list, with the exception of #1; it is the fact that in practice it is invariably expressed in a manner hostile to Christianity as opposed to any other form of religion to which I object

    Yours in Christ

    Matt
     
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    That doesn't follow...Lincoln & Washington are secular rather than religious fellows while King was a baptist preacher. </font>[/QUOTE]Maybe Bob is thinking of something else ...
     

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