The Obesity Trend

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  1. Benjamin

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    http://www.shape.com/blogs/weight-loss-coach/how-reverse-obesity-trend

    "According to projections just released by researchers at Northwestern University, obesity and diabetes are on the rise. Based on their calculations by the year 2020: 72 percent of women (up from 63 percent today) and 83 percent of men (up from 72 percent) and will be overweight or obese. 53 percent of women (up from 43 percent) and 77 percent of men (up from 62 percent) and will have diabetes or pre-diabetes.

    In other words, in about eight years, among your 50 friends, family members, and co-workers only 10 to 15 of them will be at a healthy weight and 25 to nearly 40 of them will have diabetes or be on their way to a diagnosis."

    "The average child today downs 586 calories a day from snacks, an almost 200 calorie increase compared with the previous generation,"
     
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    It's scary! I just checked and from my lost weight, I am now in the normal range! Woo-hoo!!
     
  3. Benjamin

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    :flower: Congratulations! Wishing you much enjoyment in the new you.
     
  4. Melanie

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    Oh Benjamin...what a great place name you come from "Surprise"....why I wonder....

    Wanganui/Whanganui means big harbour or big bay as the Whanganui River empties into the see and the city was founded on a pa (fortified village). The river had many Maori settlements and is very beautiful, rich in history and mythology.www.wanganui.com/
     
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    Gluttony, the most popular sin in America. It is considered by many as one of the 7 deadly sins. Well, it is deadly in that it brings on health problems and in a large majority of cases an early death.

    Sadly children of today in America will be the first generation not to live as long or longer than their parents and especially their grandparents.

     
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    I can't help but wonder if this is directly linked to the high-fructose corn syrup added into just about everything now. We have genetically modified corn that's made into syrup and added as a sugar to cereals and all kinds of foods. This is the same genetically modified corn used to fatten cows, right? Only now it is fattening us people.

    As I read labels of foods at the store, its getting harder and harder to find REAL food made with REAL ingredients.
     
  7. North Carolina Tentmaker

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    Diabetes

    Well count me as one. I just found out Monday I am diabetic. I am really having trouble reconciling what seems like contradictory information and could use some help if any of you are experienced with this.

    Yes, I am overweight, obese overweight. Crabtown you can keep your judgment to yourself. I workout regularly and eat a healthy diet, I have my entire life, but I am still overweight. Anyone who wants to judge me for that and call it a sin go ahead, I don't care and don't want to hear it.

    I workout 4-5 times a week, have for 20 years. I avoid sweets, drink water, black coffee and decalf tea sweetened with splenda. Don't smoke, don't drink. Yea, I probably eat more than I should from time to time like on thanksgiving, but it is not a regular practice.

    I lost 20 lbs during the month of November. Over thanksgiving, without changing anything else in my lifestyle, I lost 20 lbs. At first you want to celebrate, Yeah! I lost 20 lbs. Then you start asking yourself, why? So I went and got my blood sugar checked Monday because I saw that unexplained weight loss was a symptom of diabetes. It was over 350. I went to see my doctor Tuesday morning, it was still over 300. Now I am on Metformin and checking it twice a day. My fasting test this morning was still 277.

    Anybody on the board with experience here please help me out, I don't know what to do. The information my doctor gave me on diet is all contradictory. It says in one place to avoid carbs and eat protein and in another to cut protein. One place says avoid fruit and another says to eat fruits and vegetables. I know to avoid sugar, anything processed, and enriched white flour. I have been avoiding those for years. I ate a handful of grapes yeasterday and it was back up to 344 when I went to bed. Are the grapes bad? I have been eating a low sugar cereal with non fat milk for breakfast for 10 years or more. Now some of the literature says avoid the cereal because it is all carbs and eat eggs, but other places it says I need to avoid the eggs. I know better than to eat pancakes but beyond that I am lost.

    OK, enough ranting, pm me if you think you can help, thanks in advance.
     
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    I have wondered what part high-fructose corn syrup plays in this also. It is very difficult to buy any processed foods that do not have it added. The only way I can think of to cut down on this is to buy and cook from scratch. I am not sure how many people are willing to do that.

    Yes, that is right. Also it is almost impossible to not get too much sodium in a diet that comes from processed foods. Even frozen veggies and other foods have sugar and/or salt added. They are convenient, but many are not all that much faster to cook than cooking from scratch. Stir frying is fast. In fact it takes more time to cut the meat and veggies than to cook the food. But, it is a much easier way to avoid processed foods and eat fresh foods.
     
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    North Carolina Tentmaker

    I am truly sorry to hear of your diagnosis.

    I have a good friend who was in your situation and worse. He got in touch with a good dietician and has followed the dietician's advice to the letter. He has lost 200 pounds, no longer has diabetes, looks great and says he feel great.

    Find a good dietician. There must be many in North Carolina. And follow the program that dietician lays out for you.
     
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    I tried to edit my earlier post to remove the personal referance but have been unable to do so. Since I can't remove it please allow me to publicly apologize to Crabby as I should not have singled him out.
     
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    No problem at all NCT. This is a stressful time for you. You can yell at me anytime. I have broad shoulders. I consider you a BB friend. Friends do not have to always agree and friends can yell at each other at times. Life is way too short to get upset easily.

    Blessings NCT.
     
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    Sorry to hear about this. Diabetes runs in my family, my Mom was a tiny thing and had an awful time keeping her blood sugar at acceptable levels; I was diagnosed pre-diabetic a year ago.

    Check out lacto-fermented foods, I know for a fact that it has a tremendous effect on lowering blood glucose levels. After my diagnosis I stumbled upon these wonderful foods while in search of a half-sour pickle recipe, and ended up purchasing Sally Fallon's book, 'Nourishing Traditons'. I now prepare and keep in my fridge lacto-fermented foods like sauerkraut, sour pickles, pickled green tomatoes, corn & bean relish, and beet kvass. It's rare that I eat a meal without some fermented food or beverage included (the kvass makes an outstanding after meal drink, green tomatoes are gourmet with eggs in the morning, etc.). My overall blood glucose index(?) has dropped from 6.3 to 6.0 over the last year and I credit that to the fermented foods.

    Also, an unexpected side bennie with me is that the beet kvass has taken my gout away (or nearly); it has an alkalizing effect on the blood (uric acid being the culprit with gout).

    The fermentation process literally removes carbs from the food. The lacto bacilli convert sugars & starches to lactic acid (and other good probiotic stuff) as yeast converts them to alcohol.
     
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    Being overweight adds stress to the body in many ways. Regarding diabetes, one major concern here is that the free fatty acid accumulation common in obesity disrupts glucose transport by affecting insulin receptors. Weight loss and proper diet can be very effective in controlling diabetes. This is the wisest course to take and where I suggest the battle should begin, usually the preliminaries are against denial of the cause and excuses (such as, “I don’t eat that much, I know a skinny people with diabetes, or it’s probably due to heredity…anyways”) along with this it is no easy task for people to make major, and I mean MAJOR lifestyle changes in their lives if they are set in their ways especially when they have been overweight/obese for decades. I would say one has a choice and I would choose this battle ground over the others. Most the cases I know of that have successfully reduced down to a healthy and fit body and thereby managed to get off all medications have been in their 30’s. This is not to say a person in their 50’s or even older can not make the necessary lifestyle changes, but it takes becoming a new person and involves moving away from the outside things that one can run from and honestly facing the inside things one can’t run from , and again that is not an easy task.

    A quote from someone who completely changed their life and got off of diabetes medication all together:
    “PERSEVERANCE! If you keep consistent with your workouts & clean eating you WILL succeed! There can be no other result.”

    Progression of diabetes is common with patients who do not make the necessary lifestyle changes and often have to begin taking more than one medication and eventually having to take lifelong insulin injections.

    I have a lot more I would like to add to this as this is an area of great importance to me and I just found out today I have been accepted at the clinic of my choice which has a department that specializes in this but would rather go back to my class notes first than just go off the top of my head…and I am currently under time restraints studying for finals right now and afraid my head is already topped off with about as much as it can handle, but I do want to come back to this soon NCT.

    :praying:
     
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    It used to be that sugar was added. Now it's corn syrup because it's cheaper.

    A calorie is a calorie is a calorie. Doesn't matter if it comes from corn syrup or cane or beet sugar. Too many calories is what is making people gain weight.
     
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    Thanks for the tip redneck. I do enjoy sauerkraut and pickles. Don't know that I have ever tried kvass or even heard of it before. I do like pickled eggs, I have a batch in the back of the fridge now I put up last week (ready in about 3 months if I can wait that long).

    There is so much contradictory information on the web I am at my wits end. I am going to have to wait for my doctor and try to follow his advice. But I will keep your tip in mind also.
     
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    This is the old time crock style kraut and pickles, NO vinegar is used (there's nothing wrong with vinegar, other than the beneficial bacteria required to ferment the food cannot live in it's presence). Fermented pickles and vinegar pickles are two totally different things. Fermented foods are literally ALIVE, teeming with healthful bacteria; and raw, the original enzymes have never been destroyed through cooking (these foods should NEVER EVER be cooked) so that the fermentation process literally ADDS TO the original nutritional value of the food while also preserving it.
    It's a centuries old beverage that originated in Eastern Europe. Simply put, I would describe it as 'krauted beet juice'. Here's a short article. I began with this recipe but quickly modified it with the addition of sugar (which converts to lactic acid to give the kvass more of a 'wang'), and reduced the salt by about 2/3 (using whey strained from store bought yogurt as a starter). I make it a point to use the bare minimum required amount of salt with all my fermented foods. The sole purpose of the salt is to inhibit the growth of yeasts which fermentation produces alcohol, instead of the desired lactic acid and other probiotics which comes from bacterial fermentation.

    I love pickled eggs and bologna also. I've pickled them before using vinegar but never tried strictly fermenting them (Chinese have a method that requires a lengthy process, I think). I just started some more cucumber pickles (salad cukes bought at Meijers) a couple days ago, depending on room temps takes about 3-5 days before I put them in the fridge. I average one a day (usually late night snack).

    I agree, it is confusing.

    Basically, I low carb it, mostly subsisting on meat/fish/cheese/egg protein & a lot of 'green veggies' (as in a paleo diet) supplemented with the fermented foods as a condiment on the side. On average my bread intake consists of a handful of saltines a day, some mornings I'll splurge with a piece of buttered toast (from the lowest carb bread I can find).

    I do get some aerobics (somewhat irregularly) on a recumbent exercise bike. I try to 'break a sweat' at least three times a week.
     
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    More on fermented foods and diabetes:

    Acidic Foods

    Acids can also lower glucose levels in the blood. Acetic acid seems to be the most effective at accomplishing this, according to the David Mendosa and the Diabetes Monitor.

    Red and white vinegars contain adequate levels of acetic acid. They have a slightly acid taste, but work well as an ingredient in a variety of recipes. Lemons and limes also contain acetic acid and seem to work efficiently.

    Placing fruits and vegetables in a brine of whey, sea salt and other spices results in foods that are low in carb content and high in acetic acid [wrong, this is lactic acid in fermented foods]. This process is called lacto-fermentation. Small amounts of these foods can substantially lower glucose levels when added to meals [this is the key], according to the Diabetes Monitor.”



    Lacto-Fermentation

    "Kay Schmidt suggests a similar way to reduce the blood glucose levels of some fruits and vegetables. It uses a process called lacto-fermentation, which she explains:

    “I manage my insulin dependent type 2 mom, using Dr. Richard Bernstein’s philosophy of low carb. Mom misses some of her favorite foods, and I have been searching for ways to make it possible to let her enjoy some foods again.

    “Recently, I learned about lacto-fermentation (pickling using whey instead of vinegar), and its health benefits. I made lacto-fermented pickled beets, apple slices, zucchini, and yellow summer squash. I then had mom eat samples—about 1/4 cup each—and checked her blood sugars every 1/2 hour for 2 hours. I could not believe the results. The pickled beets and apples did not budge mom’s sugars. Ordinarily, beets and apples will cause mom’s sugars to spike too high. I even cooked the fermented apples into an apple sauce, and this didn’t budge mom’s blood sugar. Zucchini and yellow summer squash normally has only a small effect on mom’s sugar, but the lacto-fermented samples didn’t budge her blood sugar.

    Lacto-fermentation is different than just eating acidic foods. The lacto-fermentation process actually uses carbs in the food, converts it to lactic acid, and lowers the carb content. Fermented foods are a condiment, not a side dish, and so large amounts are not eaten at a time. Despite the seemingly small serving size, the fermentation adds enzymes and nutrients. Canned, cooked, or frozen vegetables and fruits lose nutrients. Most lacto-fermented foods are still considered raw food, so enzymes and nutrients are retained, and have the added benefit of nutrients being added back in by lacto-fermentation......"
     
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    I am a little surprised that the lovers of conspiracy theories have not taken up the obesity thing.

    Maybe governments are hand in glove with the manufactories in a subtle campaign to fatten their populations to keep then compliant, throw skinny models at the population to keep them feeling bad about themselves etc and thus sedating the population to a point where a government or outside agencies will allow a forcing of a contrary world view on them.

    I mean I don't think a corpulent population is likely to be able to defend their shores other than by squashing.....:smilewinkgrin:
     
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    I agree that way too many are overweight and we do eat the wrong things, me included, but I'm not buying the stat that 6 out of 10 in America are diabetic. I only know a very few of my family and friends that are diabetic of any type. I'm curious of how they came to that number. It would mean that almost 200,000,000 Americans are diabetic, if that was so our hospitals would be overloaded with patients suffering from the effects of this disease.
     
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    I do not know the percentage of Americans who are diabetic, but whatever it is it will increase dramatically in the coming years.
     

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