The Only Bible That Can Be Trusted

Okay, so now I'm convinced that you aren't even speaking clearly, and are not sure of what you, yourself, are talking about. What you are asking is irrelevant and makes no difference on the lives of believers. Because what you are asking is weird, and is in no way important.....as it is based off of a weird assumption.

 

Amen! :thumbs:

 

It is not which translation I trust, but rather the God I put my trust in. The fact is that few peope in the OT and NT even owned a Bible because they were very very expensive. Yet they lived godly lives and won people to Christ.

The Bible was written long before it was ever translated. If people really knew God then everything else would be a non-issue.

Several years ago I started pastoring a near death church that had been controlled by KJVO folks at one time. One Sunday I gave a sermon on how Jesus led and what true biblical leadership looked like. I mentioned that leaders have followers. At one time the KJVO folks asked what translation I preached from. They did not know what to say when I told them I preached from a Greek NT. The Sunday I spoke about biblical leadership was the major turning point for the church. During that sermon I told the congregation that the real issue was making disciples as Jesus did. There were people I began to train to make disciples who used a variety of translations. Not one of the KJVOs were leading anyone. Their leadership was exposed without saying one word about them. One by one God removed them from the congregation until not one was left. Everyone of them had taken another job at least 500 miles away.

 

That would have been HILARIOUS to see their faces when you responded with the Greek NT.

Great example!

 

One time as the moderator of our association I was called to a KJVO church to answer some questions on missions...

One of their questions..."Why do we have missionaries in Haiti that don't use the KJV? We won't support a missionary that doesn't use a KJV."

I simply asked them... "What language do the people speak in Haiti?"

You could have seen the proverbial light bulb light up over their heads...

Only one Bible exists... but it exists in many copies and translations... All are equal.

Just like only one God exists but he exists in 3 persons.. all are equal..

You are thinking too small... you want to tell God that he has to give you only one translation in English...

God answers to no man.
He has given us many, many good translations of the one true Bible.

 

So now I am propagating a lie ?
Let me put it this way.
We are talking about translations.
Once I was a KJVO and had the attitude of one, and I thought my KJVO has never changed since 1611, because we always added 1611 when somebody asked us what kind of Bible we used.
And then, like I said, some things, words, phrases started to change.
I didn't have the chapter and verse of which ones changed.
I mention it to my pastor, who is fond of criticizing non KJVO's.
He admits to me that there have been revisions, but it is still KJV.
So then the KJV translation no longer stands faithful to itself when I say it is a faithful and reliable translation of God's word, and the proponents of KJVOism no longer has my trust and confidence that the doctrine they are teaching us is true and correct.
Since I do not read Greek, and since I do not have the original languages in my possession or within close proximity, any doctrine I come across will be referred to the Holy Spirit, because His doctrine I will trust.

Capiz, brother ?

so, I PREFER to use KJV because I am comfortable with it.
But I will NOT take a stand on the faithfulness of the KJV because they have revised it, just like other translations revise it.
All I will say is MOST Bibles can be compared to the KJV.
Now, every Bible that faithfully and DECENTLY translates to the English Language is God's word and suitable for study, teaching and preaching.
Some are good for outhouse use.

 

Well should those of us who are bilingual take a stand on one Bible as well? If so in which language should we "take a stand"?

 

Pig latin....

 

I used to have the Klingon version....

Can I take a stand on it?

To me, it doesn't matter what a person uses.. as long as they use it correctly..

And that means discipling others...

We can sit here all day arguing.. but how many of us has discipled someone today...

Use what version you have.

 

my perfered versions:

UBS4
BHS

why is it Baptists are always happy to fight over something as silly as translations? This is one of the fastest growing threads in recent memory. Why is that?

 

the AMPLIFIED Bible

I have used the Amplified Bible because it is easier to hear God when reading it. The Amplified Bible is not only speaks loudly when it is read, but, it speaks clearly. The amplification of this Bible is suburb when placed side-by-side with any other version.

So, for those of you who have a hearing loss, give the Amplified Bible a listen to, and see if it's not volumes above the rest.:laugh:

Pastor Paul :type:

 

Because we haven't recently had an alcohol thread!:laugh:

 

This is not a true statement at all and it is judgemental.

No one I know of searches for a translation that makes them "feel better"

And with that I bow out. I suspect there is more to our brother's agenda here that a spirit of honest inquiry.

 

I am not a KJVO guy. In fact that ideology is the most indefensible out there. I also think we do not need to accept any translation as acceptable just because someone says it is a translation.

 

For what it's worth, I've got nothing against the varying English translations. One note about the Amplified, you're still taking some translator's word for the inference and expanded meaning.

If you want to only study from one Bible (why I have no clue) seriously go and learn Greek and Hebrew and get a UBS4 (or NA27 I don't care) and a BHS and then you can claim to have an authoritative text. Otherwise, we are just taking some ole translator's word for it.

I still have no clue why this is such a contenious debate.