I debated in High School and College and my instructors drilled us on knowing our opponents position as well, if not better, than our own. As practice we often were forced to debate the other side of an issue to prove our grasp of the subject and ability articulate it objectively and convincingly. So, just for the FUN of it and to show that we can objectively understand opposing doctrines I want to introduce the OPPOSITE thread. A place for you to come and FAIRLY argue for your opposing view. Non-Calvinists argue for Calvinism fairly, objectively and convincingly. "Calvinists" (any of the Reformed tradition) argue for non-Calvinism fairly, objectively and convincingly. ONE RULE: Please avoid being sarcastic and using caricatures, really try to represent the other side fairly and convincingly.