the Passover Jesus celebrated with his disciples

GE:
I also didn't say that was what Jesus was doin. I also said and again say Jesus' did not 'do' any of the Bedikat Chamets, or Seder, or, Passover-Meal. Have you not seen I said Jesus did a New Thing? A thing he prepared his disciples through for this once for all coming Passover? A thing that He himself would be prepared by for this once for all coming Passover? This once for all coming Passover that He would 'eat' and would 'drink' Himself being its Sacrifice, Himself being its Cup? "This", says Jesus, "is MY blood"; "This" again, "is MY body" : Not that of a passover lamb not slaughter yet or not eaten yet, but TO BE slaughtered still and TO BE eaten still, as it

 

GE:
No, it's you.
You show me once, where as you say, it says, Jesus "ATE". I show where every time, it says, I mean the Scriptures says, "MAY / MIGHT / CAN ... eat", any way you could possibly say it.
"They prepared for passover", is Scripture; that's what I, GE, say because it is Scripture, and not vice versa, that because I say it, it is Scripture --- like you in fact do!

But it's because GE once as always took the given data to full consequences as far as possible, and because GE does not take for granted popular opinion, that you say what you've said, falsely and insultingly; which I shall boast in for Christ's sake.

 

GE:
Ja, 'personally' we all do -- or are supposed to. But the Sabbath is not about 'me'; it never has been; it's about God through Jesus Christ being worshipped by his People. This is the Christian People of God: There: Where they worship their Lord _together_. This is the Christian People of God: There: _When_ they worship their Lord together.

 

"it makes a difference if Jesus was raised up on the Sabboth (last day of the week) or on Sonday (first day of the week)", EE.

GE:
Christian worship is all about this 'difference'.
Without this difference, there will be no witness, no proclamation, no praises, no prayers, no singing, no healing: basically because two things will be and must be wanting : No "Sabbaths'", "eating and drinking" of Christ in Spirit and Truth, "not holding the Head from Whom all the Body (of Christ's Own) by joints and bands having (spiritual) nourishment ministered", no "increase (growth) with the increase of God" but a getting "puffed up" to bursting point with self-esteem and vanity of an own religion. (The like is described further in verses 20-23.)

 

We are still on track. We are still dealing with the Passover Jesus that Nisan 14 ate and drank Himself being the Lamb slaughtered and eaten and His Own blood being the Life of Him drunk.

It only extended into the Life of the Body of Christ's Own, and no longer is being celebrated a sacrifice or therefore the day of a death merely, but that Passover is now being celebrated the day of his life taken up, lifted up and exalted, "On the Sabbath Day".
He having "triumphed in it"-- having been raised from the dead --, his day of death and resurrection and Triumph is being observed and celebrated in one with "Sabbath's feasting"!

 

After the two disciples who were sent before, found the room, and everything 'prepared', they made no further preparations, but, "prepared for Passover". Which means, they enjoyed the passover preparation-meal. But this time, the first time, the Providence of God, "prepared", and "prepared", not for the old passover, but for the New, that it "might be eaten". And so the disciple and Jesus 'Prepared the Passover" -- for "our Passover", the Passover of the Lamb of God.

 

But what do I have this diatribe with myself for? This is not my dogma; this is well known Protestant teaching! What do you oppose me so for? Or why do you so disregard me, rather? This is essential, Protestant doctrine! It contains the death of trans-substantiation. It glorifies the Christ. It simplifies the Message. Only good can be said of it. But no, this is me making me the Scriptures! I ask you, why? Is this blasphemy? Is this insulting? Is this obvious, literal, confused, error?

I know what I believe! I believe (here) the Lord's Supper; not the Jews'. It's good enough for me.

 

I said:
"We are still on track. We are still dealing with the Passover Jesus that Nisan 14 ate and drank Himself being the Lamb slaughtered and eaten and His Own blood being the Life of Him drunk."

And now and here it struck me first time, "Great, marvelous, wonderful, beautiful, is the Mystery of Godliness"!

About half a century ago already, I noticed the difference between Exodus and the rest of the Law and the OT. I made a thorough exposition of it, the fact that Exodus places BOTH the sacrifice and the EATING, on Nisan 14, for which reason, Exodus employed for the feast days, a sunrise to sunrise reckoning.

All the subsequent references to the dating of the sacrifice and the passover-MEAL, place sacrifice, on Nisan 14 (no exceptions), and meal, on Nisan 15 (no exceptions). For this reason the sunset to sunset daycycle was instrumental - no exceptions.

I always thought this was a difficulty.
I tried to find explanations, and could only think of the old era of bondage being broken (see explained),
so that the 'old' first and day-halve of Nisan 14 fell away and back into Nisan 13 and became its last and day-halve; and Nisan 14's 'old' and last or night-halve, (now at the beginning of the new age of freedom), became the beginning and first or night-halve of Nisan 14.

Thus both sacrifice and meal fell on Nisan 14. It was the first passover.

Now in the endtime once again and for last and ever, both Sacrifice and Meal of Passover became one in the ONE Who is both Sacrifice and Meal of Yahweh's Passover. Once for all, the Lamb of God our Passover in his own body and the sacrifice of Himself, became both Sacrifice and Meal of Yahweh's Passover on, and, within, Nisan 14. It would be the Last Passover.

After sunset after this Nisan 14, the Jews on Nisan 15, would still eat their passover - which was their own in every respect, and none of Christ's.

I saw it today through this discussion; I have found what for me is a treasure of spiritual wealth, and I sincerely want to thank everyone for his or her critique, without which I still would have walked with blinkers on.

 

GE:
At this hour in His life, Jesus was less 'Jewish' than at any time of his life. In fact, reading John 17 Jesus is seen the Intercessor for his Elect, first, last and only. Reading the passion-narratives, Jesus tells his disciples Now is the hour of evil men and of the powers of darkness. He sided with no human affiliation when He Institutionalised His Supper the Holy Communion of Christian allegiance. Here is the point in the life's history of Jesus Christ blood relation or nationalistic interests were zero.

Here prophecy was being brought to an end; here Jewish Covenantal commiment raged itself out in the fury of the Jews and the judgments of a just God. Christ Triumphed and introduced the Lord's Supper to commemorate Triumph through Victory. No 'Jewish holy day' would do; no holy meal of it; He had to invent and create his own.

And I never denied Jesus here 'observed' a Holy Day of God's institution: He observed, the Passover of Exodus, Nisan 14, in both aspects of Sacrifice AND Meal! No 'Jewish' ceremony or even OT ceremony existed that could fulfil the requirements of God's Prophetic, Eschatological Provision through Christ Himself. Jesus WAS the Passover Lamb, both in being Sacrifice Himself and Feast of Eating Himself.
Jesus did not observe the Jewish Passover still observed by the Jews for nothing but a judgment over themselves on Nisan 15, after, the True Passover Lamb of God had been sacrificed and Himself by the sacrifice of Himself had eaten the plate prepared for Him and had drunk the cup prepared for Him by God, that Nisan 14.

 

For my last word on this thread, I must ask Ed Sutton and our Lord Jesus, forgiveness for my sinful heart and mind and body, that I accused him falsely, and suspected him of a wrong which he did not do, but which my two eyes and mind full of old and evil tendencies, saw for real. Ja, were it not for the love and forgiveness of our Lord God and my fellow believers in Him, I would have been hellbound. But now I am being saved instead. I cannot understand it. I can only say, thank you!