The Pastor and his Bible

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  1. Salty

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    In the good ole days, a pastor would say, "take you Bible and turn to ..."

    Nowdays, its "look up at the screen for todays passage..." and he may not even be holding his Bible

    So what do you or your pastor do?

    Me personally, I preach out of my Bible ( with a few notes) I want people to open their Bibles, see right where the passage is, and maybe take notes.

    I know many churchs uses a projection screen, but its not for me.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. annsni

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    We have a projection screen and all that goes on there is my job. Songs and announcements as well as anything else important goes there. But unless there are some photos or special sermon notes/illustrations, the screen goes up when pastor gets up to preach. We never put the verses up there and I haven't even loaded the Bible portion of the software into the program because we just don't use it! Our pastor has said that he prefers that people get to know their own Bible and he is always saying "underline that word" or "write this in the margin". How can you do that if you don't have a Bible? We also don't have pew Bibles because everyone should have their own. If they don't have one, one will be given to them. :)
     
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    I do both, so what does that mean? I think it means i want people who have a Bible to read it and those who don't have a Bible read it also.

    I put other verses on the screen (usually 10 or so) and would rather people look at the screen and keep up with what is being said rather than get lost trying to find Habakkuk.

    I use the stuff on the screen and written fil in the blank notes because people remember more if they see, hear and write than if they just hear.
     
  4. Peggy

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    I like the verses up on the screen.
     
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    It's a really good question. We do several things:

    1. We always talk about looking in your Bible, circle this, underline that, write this, etc we ask people to stay tied to the text.

    2. We don't put our main passages (other than citation) up on the screens but will put secondary passages up.

    3. We talk about turning here or going there, how we talk about our passages is as important as anything else.

    4. We post all pub content online
     
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    I carry my Bible, but often I will just listen. That's the way it was originally heard, and I like to participate in that tradition.
     
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    My pastor begins by saying "Please turn to........" and then he reads the passage. Other scripture within his message are referenced to book, chapter, and verse which encourages following along individually. As for the screen? After the song service, where hymns are projected, his delivery is projected so those who have no visual contact because of others heads or other obstacles can still see.

    I've always enjoyed finding the scripture and reading silently along. I think the more senses we involve in a learning /receiving situation, the better the retention. One may just listen..... but the other 'senses' are then available for distraction. With the ears comes the hearing; with the eyes comes the sight and confirmation that the words are correctly read and the understanding takes part; with the turning of the pages the sense of touch is engaged as well as the mind for becoming familiar with the order of the book on which words our faith grows.
     
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    We do not have a projection system. My pastor is young but rather old fashion on these things. So even if we had a projection system I think he would still use his Bible and ask us to use ours. He preaches out of the King James Version. Around here a young pastor preaching from the KJV is not unusual, but I think it is somewhat unusual nationally.


    Even if we did use a screen, I would still use my Bible. I love to hold a book when I am reading it. I'm not into the electronic books (etc).
     
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    The screen's intent is not to replace the Bible. That's a common misconception.

    My preacher's Bible is constantly in his hand. And we use the screen, too. It's invaluable for making announcements prior to the service, so that service time won't be taken up with endless ad nausem announcements.

    Our pastor uses it to broadcast the scripture passage for the day. He reads the scripture passage, from his Bible, as it is being shown on the screen. He does this at the beginning of the service. This way, the songs that are sung, being in conjunction with the message, prepare for the message on the scripture that's already been read and it makes the song more meaningful.. By the time he is ready to preach, everyone has been in a state of meditation and preparation.

    He doesn't use the screen during the his preaching often, unless he wants to review several scriptures at once. We also have Bibles in the song racks for people to use.

    We've had several guest pastors use the screen when they preach because they use powerpoints.
     
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    "Please open your laptops or electronic device of choice ...."

    I don't mind using the screen, but always carry my Bible.
     
  11. Salty

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    That may be one reason why a projection is used in some (esp large) churches; there are so many different versions brought by those in attendance, that it would be hard to keep up with the scripture reading.
     
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    The reason I like the screen is that the text is usually just one or two verses, and I don't see why I should bother looking up one or two verses and sitting there with my Bible open for the rest of the sermon.

    Yes, I do take notes on the sermon but not in my Bible.
     
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    I hate to say it, and I'm not trying to say anything against your preaching/note style but we have found that fill-in-the-blank does not help with what people remember. The most we'll do now is to put the very rough outline on the sermon note-paper but most of the time it's just blank lines for you to take the notes as you need to. We've found that just as many people don't write with fill in the blank or plain lined paper and in our small groups, the weeks we've had fill-in-the-blanks, people needed more refresher information before they could remember what was said.

    Just sharing our experiences.
     
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    Are you serious? We're talking the sword - the Word of God. The inspired revelation to mankind. It's a "bother" to open the Bible and read one or two verses? I'm not sure if I'm just misunderstanding what you're saying but it shows me a lack of respect and honor to the Word of God, honestly. There are people around the world who die for a verse or two. There are others who would give up food for a verse or two. I hope I'm just misunderstanding your feelings towards the Word but it's a privilege to open it for just a word or two, no less for a verse or two. Maybe you were being facetious??
     
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    LOL - My husband had broken his foot back in October so was on crutches (yet again - he seems to live on crutches). Our pastor addressed the congregation on texting during the service and asking that they not do it. So someone came up to hubby at the end of the service because they saw him using his iTouch. The issue was, it was hard for him to bring his Bible when he was using crutches so the iTouch would fit well in his pocket so while he was on crutches, he used the iTouch.

    But I still prefer my paper Bible so that I can write in it and stuff. My Bible is a full running commentary in some sections!
     
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    Everyone and every church is different. There have been times I have just done away with the fill in the blank notes and stuff and I have more people asking for them. There is often the problem (for us) that after the last blank is filled people tend to put it away and sometimes close their Bibles (and their mind). It's a difficult balance that seems to work better with what we have. And, of course, your mileage will vary.
     
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    Most of our people are older so they are not real computer literate. But in our 2nd service, the more contemporary service, we have several people whose Bible is on their laptop. But sometimes I have a sneaking suspicion they are checking their email. :laugh:
     
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    Yep - we did it for a long time and when we went back to blank notepaper, there were lots of inquiries! Of course if you change ANYTHING, you get questions. :thumbsup:
     
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    What happens when "the Spirit leads" a preacher to vary from the prepared powerpoint script? Do you have a special "rabbit trail" slide you can insert or do you just keep the last slide there while he or she rambles on and on about something else?
     
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    These off the wall messages are nothing new. See Daniel 5:5:laugh:
     

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