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The Poor (Literal Please)

Discussion in 'Pastoral Ministries' started by Bartimaeus, Jun 17, 2003.

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  1. Bartimaeus

    Bartimaeus New Member

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    Matt 26:11
    For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.

    Please post from a literal standpoint. Where do you believe the poor are today or who are the poor today?
    I believe the poor are those who have lost their personal liberty. Those in the jail and those who are strapped and tied down to a bed or wheelchair. It has been a real joy to minister to these people.

    Thanks -----Bart
     
    #1 Bartimaeus, Jun 17, 2003
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    Those who are unable to tend to there own lives or the lives of those that depend on them.
     
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    Bart... you and dr bob really make me search...and help me stretch... I would have to say the wretches who have seen evidence of God's awesome presence and still refuse to believe...Or the people who are seeking Him and are to blind to find.
     
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    Speaking as a teacher in an inner-city high school where oover 50% of our kids are on free or reduced lunch, poor is not so much economics as social. The really poor kids have no positive adult leadership at home, because they are usually doomed to the cycle of poverty unless they connect with positive leadership outside of the home. We teachers can sometimes provide that, but when you teach 150 kids a day, that is tough!
     
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    Interesting views on what the "poor" really are. Do you think that in context Jesus meant anything more than "poor" as we are used to using the word?
     
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    I think you have it, swabbie... [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  7. Bartimaeus

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    A good old Christian friend of mine would tell me trying to teach the young wippersnapper something: "poor people have poor ways that keep themselves poor". Could this be part of it and what some of what ya'll are saying?

    Thanks ------Bart
     
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    USN2Pulpit i was about to ask a similar question, are we talking about "spirituallly" poor here, or poor as in those on the margins of society, who are for various reasons, i.e. disability, gender, race or health, who are oppressed and trapped in their life situation, seeing no way out?

    Blessings [​IMG]
     
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  9. Ben W

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    I think that the poor, are people that are in Third World Countries that are starving. And literally have no way up in a physical sense from anyone.
     
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    The context is financial because some of the disciples wanted to sell the perfume for money to "feed the poor." Of course, that was probably a crock. It seems quite clear that financial is what is in view.

    I think the bigger question is how do we apply this. For instance, there are some who insist that nice, beautiful church buildings are wrong because that money should be given to missions. However, here Jesus clearly condoned the "waste" of money on something that many would consider banal. I can see much more use for a big beautiful building than I can for a puddle of perfume and nice smelling feet that will get dirty again very soon. Yet there was something more at work here.
     
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