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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by evangelist6589, Nov 21, 2015.

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  1. evangelist6589

    evangelist6589 Well-Known Member
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    Its similar but its very different and advocates of each view debate with one another. Which view do you hold?
     
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    False, False, False!

    Read the works of Edwards and see that he got the idea of dispensationalism long before Darby. Or what of Pierre Poiret?
     
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    I hold to a premillennial post trib rapture view.
     
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    Post Trib heh? Very different from the Pre-Wrath view, but still a view within the debates of Dispensationalism.
     
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    At this moment I hold to a modify form of dispensationalism with a post trib rapture twist. :)
     
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    Which would be what form? Progressive?
     
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    True True True

    Edwards was not a dispensationalist and seeing different ages does not a dispensationalist make. (Ryrie will back me up on that)
     
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    I don't call myself historic premillennialist or progressive dispensationalist. I'm still studying on this important topic.
     
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    I got my Intel from his book so he won't back you up on that.

    Oh and how did you get out of my ignore list?
     
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    "In other words, a person can believe in dispensations and even see them in relations to progressive revelation, without being a dispensationalist."
    Charles Ryrie
    Dispensationalism 1995
    pg 38

    See Ryrie backs me up that seeing dispensations does not a dispensationalist make. It all comes down to how one views Israel and the Church.
     
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    Probably the best source on the subject is "Things to Come" J.D. Pentecost
     
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    Pre-trib-dispensationalism is a false doctrine straight out of the pit of John Nelson Darby. It is a pathetic attempt by ""Christians""" to avoid the truth that most Christians will face death before the return of Jesus Christ. It also is understandable why a Jew in Florida recently took these people to task since they are condemning Jews to 3-7 years of the worst of tribulation
     
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    BlessedWife has many gifts which she will use when appropriate! Heed the advice of one who knows!
     
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    The appeal to a doctrine, any doctrine, must be made on the basis of the Word of God, and not on the basis of history.
    For example, on November 1, 1950, Pope Pius XII declared the Assumption of Mary an official dogma of the Catholic Church. Does that, therefore, make it true? The Catholic apologist will try to make an appeal to the ECF in defense. However the Assumption is declared right or wrong on the basis of the Bible not on the basis of its history, no matter how authoritative that history may seem to be.

    What saith the Lord? That is the question that must be answered in all matters of doctrine. It is not a matter of who believed what and when they believed, but rather what does the Word of God say, and on that basis one should proceed.
     
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    Go chase a rabbit.
     
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    I think I am going to go with: the tribulation takes place, the wrath takes place, the resurrection and rapture of those to rule with Christ takes place, they meet the Lord in the air and together with Him return to the earth where the Lord. the Son of Man, shall sit in the throne of his glory, the tabernacle of David, with those ruling with him.

    I might change my mind but am going with that for now.
     
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    Why so angry? I believe Thomas Ice said he was the father of (modern) dispensationalism....not a particular flavor.. "Irishman, John Nelson Darby (1800-1882) is unquestionably the father of modern dispensationalism."
     
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    For the Record, because i do not want to leave any doubts (if i engage in such topics) i am a Pre-Trib, Pre-Millenial, Pre Flood (enoch) kinda guy...
     
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    Will there be tribulation as a Christian, absolutely, Our Lord Jesus Said it would be so, but i think it is biblical to address a "Great Tribulation, that will come upon all the world..."
     
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