The pure evil of the Muslim/Islam religion

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  1. evangelist6589

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    Reading this book and Mac pulls no punches on his view of them. He speaks as strong and direct about them as he does the false teachers in the church in other books. I heard after 911 this book had been banned in the Arabic Muslim world which I believe. Anyways Muslims that show up on TV and try and talk about Islam as being a peaceful religion are liars liars and have pants on fire! Convert or die is the strategy of Muslim evangelists. Sadly Muslims are also invading the White House and other forms of American government as outlined in other books. When a true Muslim comes to power as president it may be the end of freedom of religion as we know it.

    The Muslims do not care about all these CAL VS. ARMINIAN debates that dominate almost every thread here as they see both camps as Christians and a threat.
     
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    I have said repeatedly that Islam is a religion of death.
     
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    Indeed so. Especially true when so called experts try and say otherwise on TV.
     
  4. Yeshua1

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    The problem though with islam is that the radicals/terrorists are actually the closest to what their prophet Muhhamad said that Allah had given to him, the concept of the Jihad to spread conversion...

    And many Muslims thankfully are ignorant that Islam prophet did indeed teach to kill the infidels...

    Its like while we have the official teachings of the vatican/many do not really know what those are even in catholic churches!
     
  5. HankD

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    We all agree that modern radical Islam is terrorist and murderous in nature.

    Expand the scope of history and we see that Christendom had its moments as well.

    See what the Church of Rome did to many of our own forerunners such as the Waldensians, Albigenses or the French Huguenots during the Crusades and the Inquisition when the Pope would periodically send his armies (or order a pogrom) into their areas to commit mass murder (lets call it what it is/was) against men, women and children.

    http://www.reformation.org/bart.html

    http://www.reformationhappens.com/works/Waldenses/

    Just as most of us don't know or see the difference between Sunni and Shiite Moslems, neither do most Moslems know or care whether a Christian calls him/herself Catholic or Baptist. We are lumped together in their mind and equally worthy of the infidel's death.

    The point? - it's not so much our religion but our fallen human nature that makes us what we are (thieves, liars, murderers, etc).

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    The point is in error. The core os Islam is extaclty what we see today.
     
  7. Don

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    Absolutely.
     
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    Why call it a religion at all...... it's a cult.
     
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    It is a cancer rather than a cult.
     
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    I would agree that radical Islam attracts the fallen human nature but then so does the Ku Klux Klan or the Black Panthers.

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    The BIG difference is that when a Christian does violance/kills in the name of Christ such as KKK bombing black churches, or killing abortion doctors, that is NOT what Christianity actually teaches thm to do, but what Isis is now doing is exactly what the prophet said allah told them to do!
     
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    HankD, I get the impression you are trying to make some sort of moral equivalence between islam and Christianity/America (not sure which) by equating "radical" islam with KKK and Black Panthers. There are, really, 3 problems with this. First, no matter what the press and our government tells you, there is no such thing as "radical" islam - it is islam - a true muslim would support, 100%, what ISIS is doing. Second, the KKK and Black Panthers really are fringe groups and, except for some small pockets in America, they are dead. Third, though every death is a tragedy, the few that the KKK and Black Panthers have killed over the last dozens of years pales in comparison to the 23,620 the muslims have killed since 9/11/01.

    Most religions, I think, are started when a demon convinces some gullible people to worship him as a god. Islam is so evil, I would not be surprised to find out that satan is the founder of islam.

    In the spirit of total disclosure:

    (1) My wife (though she survived) was in the Pentagon on 9/11 and the plane flew right under her office. Several of her friends on the floor below her died that day.

    (2) I fought in Desert Storm.

    (3) As an evangelist, I have held crusades in several muslim controlled regions (both in Africa and the Philippines). I have led scores of muslims to a saving knowledge of Christ. I do not hate muslims but I despise their religion.
     
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    Yeshua1, can you point out a verse in the Qur'an that says this? I am not arguing that these people are saying that they are doing what Mohammed said, but I would need to see it to believe he actually said it.

    When I read the Qur'an (twice) what stuck out to me is that it said the Jew and the Christian were brothers to Islam, and not to be hated. I'd have to do some digging to find it again, but that's what I read.
     
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    'The Jewish Foundation of Islam' (1933) by Charles Cutler Torrey

    Excerpts:

    “Unquestionably the first impression gained by a reader of the quran Koran is that Muhammad Mohammed had received the material of his new faith and practice mainly from the Jews of the Hijaz. On almost every page are encountered either episodes of Hebrew history, or familiar Jewish legends, or details of rabbinical law or usage, or arguments which say in effect that Islam is the faith of Abraham and Moses.....”

    “These facts, if taken by themselves, would obviously indicate that the Arabian prophet's religious education had been thoroughly Jewish.....”

    “'This quran quranic Koranic teaching is Gnostic,' or 'This is Manichaean'-in our dense ignorance of the type of Christianity that was known in the Hijaz, and especially, the type of Judaism that was actually present in Mekka in muhammad Mohammed's time, and from which we know him to have derived such a very large proportion of what we find in the quran Koran......”

    “....there is no clear evidence that muhammad Mohammed had ever received instruction from a Christian teacher, while many facts testify emphatically to the contrary; and that, on the other hand, the evidence that he gained his Christian material either from Jews in Mekka, or from what was well known and handed about in the Arabian cities, is clear, consistent, and convincing....”

    “...The fact of the Israelite city of Khaibar, "the richest city of the Hijaz," is one very significant item among many. Such a civilization is not produced in a short time. Native Arab tribes "converted" in the manner supposed would have been certain, we should imagine, to welcome and accept the prophet of their own number who promised them a truly Arabian continuation of Judaism adapted to their own special needs, while based squarely on the Hebrew scriptures. But the Jews of Mekka, Medina, and the rest of the Hijaz knew better, and would not yield an inch....I have thus far been speaking mainly of the great number of Arabs professing the Israelite faith, in muhammad Mohammed's time.....”

    “....The quran Koran repeatedly speaks of "the children of Israel" as the most favored people on earth-up to the time of Islam; and in addressing them the prophet always reminds them that they know their scriptures.....”

    “Far more important, however, is the testimony contained in the quran Koran. The Israelite tribes with their rabbis, their books, sacred and secular, their community of faith and action, and their living contact with the past, are there; they are no phantom. All through the quran Koran there is evidence of a Jewish culture, which muhammad Mohammed greatly admired, and of Jewish learning, which he very imperfectly assimilated.”
    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=1869892#post1869892
     
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    That was what the prophet taught early on from Allah, but the Muslims all agree on the law of Abrogation, their form of progressive revelation, so what Allah gave him takes precidenc e/priority, and Muhhamad taught that if theinfidels would not peacefully convert, go ahead and do jihad on them!
     
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    The same prophet who ordered 833 jews to get behanded in one day, and have their wives/windows marriade off to himself and his followers, in order to legally go in and "enjoy their fruits"

    He thought Christianity worshipped mart as another God, refused jesus as Sion of God
    /messaih, as his religion came from gabriel, really satan in disguise!
     
  17. HankD

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    You know what Bob, (to be forthright) more than once I have entertained those very concerns which you have listed above.

    Once, if and when, "radical Islam" gets the upper hand here in America what will be the reaction of "moderate" and "peace-loving" moslems?

    Evil begets evil, the KKK and other terror groups in America did not flourish because we wouldn't let them.

    But I wonder what will happen when netanyahu's "Meet The Neo-Bolsheviks-Coming Soon To Your Neighborhood" (meaning America) statement comes true.

    That is what it is really all about.

    They have a dual objective - genocide of the Jews and an Islamic America (the homeland of Zionism).

    You can't have one without the other in their view.

    Revelation 20:4
    4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God...


    HankD
     

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