The Real Obama Smack Down

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  1. OldRegular

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    Cheney slams Obama in radio interview, says policies aim to 'take America down'

     
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    I have been saying the same for at least 7 years!
     
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    DITTO!!!
    Tho the details were unknown at the time, the distinct possibility of his actions were obvious in '08; and even to the most mentally challenged in '12.
    Sure doesn't say much for the voters - unless you allow for fraud!
     
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    Wait until a few years after he is gone from office. I think many will be willing to come out and tell us the awful truth on Obama. Also Obama will not be able to keep his mouth shut and will probably tell us much that we already suspect about him. That is if we are still a republic by then.
     
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    Billionaire Mort Zuckerman thinks that Obama is not ill-intentioned but is surrounded by people who cannot give him good advice and due to his own inexperience Obama just doesn't know what to do.

    I think that he should dump John Kerry and get a technician as Sec. of State.
     
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    I suppose the same could be said concerning Dubya, with the tweek that it was intentionally misleading cherry-picked data being given to him aided and abided by neocon military industrialist Dick Cheney.

    I believe Obama's cabal is advising him straight from the Marxist playbook.
     
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    "...Cheney was the war's chief propagandist, who told the American public more spectacular falsehoods than anyone, including Bush himself. Cheney was the one who told us in 2002 that "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us."

    He's the one who tried to convince us that Saddam Hussein might have helped engineer the September 11 attacks, and who said in 2005 that the insurgency in Iraq was "in its last throes." (The war went on for 6½ more years.) [WAR STILL RAGING WITH ISIS]

    Cheney had a central role in bringing on a war in which 4,500 Americans gave their lives, tens of thousands more were gravely injured, we spent a couple of trillion dollars, and somewhere between 100,000 and 500,000 Iraqis died
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    Dick Cheney's amazing chutzpah on Iraq
     
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    And these threatened the security of the U.S. so as to justify the war as being a success?

    Which 'finding' are you referring to? Word is now ISIS has 'found' them.
     
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    It was a success until Obama just bailed.
     
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    Says the man who negotiated Bush into two disastrous wars costing thousands of young Americans the lives and tens of thousands of young Americans of a good life. Cheney did more to destroy the USA than any Vice-president in our history. He has absolutely no credibility as he is only trying to preserve his legacy ... which in the long run is going to be a very bad legacy.
     
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    He didn't 'bail', the American people 'bailed'. He kept his 2008 campaign promise to get the U.S. out of there. Simply put, the Obama presidency is literally a 'backlash' to Bush's humongous Iraq war blunder. That's something I've noticed that many on board here either fail to see or refuse to accept. Obama is a backlash, a reaction.
     
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    Obama is doing exactly what he promised, "Fundamentally Change America"! Joe the Plumber understood that in 2007!
     
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    Your nonsensical semantics Crabby do not alter in the least what Obama has done to the United States: Transform the most powerful and prosperous nation in history into a third rate power bowing to the whims of Islam!

    And Crabby you have demonstrated over the years that you care absolutely nothing about "young American lives"!
     
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    I like that phrase "neocon military industrialist"! Sounds like the monkey guy! Perhaps I will bookmark it and tweet it to Rand Paul!
     
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    Cheney is literally the epitome of what Eisenhower warned us of:

    Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex - 2:40
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A

    Go ahead hillbilly, instead of your usual mocking and scoffing, listen to what this great American had to say. It's only 2:40, surely you can spare that much time, and maybe, possibly shed some of your ignorance.
     
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    I reiterate:

    Dick Cheney: War Profiteer - 11/17/2005

    "...As Defense Secretary, Mr. Cheney commissioned a study for the U.S. Department of Defense by Brown and Root Services (now Kellogg, Brown and Root), a wholly owned subsidiary of Halliburton. The study recommended that private firms like Halliburton should take over logistical support programs for U.S. military operations around the world. Just two years after he was Secretary of Defense, Cheney stepped through the revolving door linking the Department of Defense with defense contractors and became CEO of Halliburton. Halliburton was the principal beneficiary of Cheney's privatization efforts for our military's logistical support and Cheney was paid $44 million for five year's work with them before he slipped back through the revolving door of war profiteering to become Vice-President of the United States. When asked about the money he received from Halliburton, Cheney said. "I tell you that the government had absolutely nothing to do with it."

    The Bush administration has dished out lucrative reconstruction contracts in Iraq to favored U.S. based corporations including Halliburton and denied contracts to many Iraqi and foreign based companies. To the conquerors go the spoils was the message on December 11, 2003 when Bush said, "The taxpayers understand why it makes sense for countries that risk lives to participate in the contracts in Iraq, It's very simple. Our people risk their lives, friendly coalition folks risk their lives, and therefore the contracting is going to reflect that."

    Bush's statement is a stunning admission of how much corrupt corporations control our foreign policy. Under Cheney's leadership Halliburton out did Enron in using offshore subsidiaries as tax shelters to hide profits to bilk U.S. taxpayers. Halliburton also utilized off-shore subsidiaries to contract for services and sell banned equipment to rogue states like Iran, Iraq and Libya. This would be illegal if done directly by Halliburton.

    At last count Halliburton had 58 offshore subsidiaries in Caribbean tax havens. With Cheney at the helm Halliburton's tax payments to the U.S. went from $302 million in 1998 to zero in 1999, when they also received a refund of $85 million from the Internal Revenue Service.

    During Cheney's tenure as CEO from 1995 to 2000, Halliburton Products and Services set up shop in Iran. The Halliburton subsidiary does approximately $40 million a year worth of oil field service work for the Iranian government. 60 Minutes correspondent Lesley Stahl visited the subsidiary in the Cayman Islands and found that it had no office and no employees. The mailing address was a local bank with which the subsidiary is registered. Stahl was met there by the bank's manager who informed her that all mail to the subsidiary is forwarded to Halliburton headquarters in Houston. Halliburton had created the subsidiary to allow itself to do illegal business with a rogue state and to skip out on its taxes in the process.

    With Iran's president vowing to destroy Israel and being accused by the Bush administration of harboring and aiding al-Qaeda operatives, Cheney's company is doing business with Iran through a subsidiary and dodging its tax obligations to the U.S.

    Halliburton has been more closely associated with the invasion of Iraq than any other corporation. Before the Iraq War began, it was 19th on the U.S. Army's list of top contractors and zoomed to number 1 in 2003. In 2003 Halliburton made $4.2 billion from the U.S. government. Cheney stated he had , "severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest."

    Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) recently asserted that Cheney's stock options which were worth $241,498 a year ago, are now valued at more than $8 million-- for an increase of 3,281% . Cheney has pledged to give the proceeds to charity. Cheney continues to received a deferred salary from the company. He was paid $205,298 in 2001; $162,392 in 2002; $178,437 in 2003; and $194,852 in 2004.

    The Congressional Research Service has concluded that holding stock options while in elective office does constitute a "financial interest" whether or not the holder of the options donates the proceeds to charities, and deferred compensation is also a financial interest.

    Calling on Cheney to sever his financial ties to Halliburton, Lautenberg points out that the company has already raked in more than $10 billion for work in Iraq, and was handed some of the first Katrina contracts. The company has been criticized by auditors for its handling of no-bid contacts in Iraq, and there have been numerous allegations of over charging for services. Auditors found the firm marked up meal prices for troops and inflated gas prices in a deal with a Kuwaiti supplier. The company also built the American prison at Guantanamo Bay. Lautenberg said, "It is unseemly for the Vice President to continue to benefit from this company at the same time his Administration funnels billions of dollars to it."

    Cheney's war profiteering requires redress and justice."

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    "It is unseemly for the Vice President to continue to benefit from this company at the same time his Administration funnels billions of dollars to it."

    Lol, ya think?
     
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    All I can say is: Hurrah for Tom Turnipseed and Common Dreams, Breaking News and Views for the Progressive {aka, communist} Community.
     

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