The RIGHT reason for coming to America; and the wrong reason!

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  1. righteousdude2

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    I believe, and this is my heart and gut speaking .... that the only acceptable reason for coming to America should and would be TO BECOME AN AMERICAN. This includes, but of course is not limited to, total ASSIMILATION.

    If a person comes here for any other reason(s) they will never become Americans and thetefore, never become a productive.citizen, because they will never have the drive or desire to adopt the traditions, values and customs of this country. Those are qualities that help each of us to maintain and keep America strong and presenting a UNITED front.

    When a person comes here wanting to keep all their customs and traditions, they become divisive to those who love America and live as Americans.

    That is my view .... I am sure there will be opposing views. So, fire away, but if you oppose my view, please explain how anything but complete assimilation serves for the better good of this nation and those who have adopted this countries values, customs, traditions and lifestyle? Thamks. And please try to keep this CIVIL! Whistling
     
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    And those who maintain dual citizenship are what, in your opinion...not real Americans?

    I think that your comment is narrow-headed. There are many legitimate reasons to come to the U.S.
     
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    When I was working on Reagan's SDI program in the 80's there was a shortage of theoretical physicists (and other types of PhD's). It was common practice for defense contractors to hire foreigners to work on SDI under a year or multi-year contracts under the green card program. These brainiacs would come here and work for a couple of years then go back to there native country.

    These people helped the US win the cold war. I'd say that served the better good of this country without them having to assimilate.
     
  4. carpro

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    They were not "immigrants" in the first place.
     
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    Do you see the word "immigrant" in the OP? Nope. I see the word "persons" and "coming to America".

    Back off.
     
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    That is definitely your opinion. But if I'm narrow headed, what does that make you for having an opinion? Maybe you're a "pinhead!"
     
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    That is not what I eluded to .... I am speaking not of temporary workers, but those setting up permanent residence in this country. Your liberal explanation is why the nation is in a crapper.
     
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    Why "back off"? Am I supposed to be afraid of you?Roflmao

    I understood his post to be referring to immigration. Evidently , you didn't.

    I will await clarification from the author. Is that enough "backing off" for you?

    Hmmm......

    I see we have already received clarification.

    Maybe you should be the one to "back off".Biggrin
     
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    "Eluded to"? Whatever.

    I read your post as it was written. You asked for reasons people would come to America. Don't blame me if your writing is sloppy.

    You should take the advice given in your last sentence of your OP:

    And please try to keep this CIVIL! Whistling
     
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    You like to engage people in a "gotcha" campaign of posting. Just telling you to tone it down.
     
  11. just-want-peace

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    Rather than getting snotty, you COULD have asked for clarification, doncha think??
    I personally took the OP as those that were considering permanent residence in the USA.
     
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    Baloney.

    Looks to me like you were engaging in your own brand of "gotcha" campaign against this particular author. Clean up your own house or "back off" yourself.
     
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    I made the wrong expression. Narrow-minded is what I meant.

    Why not answer my question?
     
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    You warn others to "back off" and you now want to keep things "civil".

    Again, clean up your own house.
     
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    I would like to know RD's reason for starting this thread.
     
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    He was probably going through the Fox News archive and heard Hannity talking about nothing short of assimilation for Mexican immigrants ( something he and the mother ship have disseminated as a talking point) and is now also applying to Muslim immigrants.

    There are no original thoughts coming from the West coast. He's like so many political conservatives who hear something on Fox News or conservative talk and then comes back and repeats it as though no one else has heard the talking points on the same shows.

    Boring.
     
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    Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
    With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
    Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
    A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
    Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
    Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
    Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
    The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
    "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
    With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

    Total Assimilation? What are we, The Borg? My mother (and her mother) were immigrants. They both came to this country, worked hard, and made a life for themselves. I happen to enjoy the (non-American) culture of my mother. I enjoy her cooking and art work.

    America has long been a nation of mixed cultures, and I for one like it that way.
     
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    Assimilation has been the strength of the melded society in America. Hopefully new immigrants come to America for the freedom and opportunities it offers and become "Americans" in the process.

    When immigrants of any kind refuse to become Americans, America as we know it will end.
     
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    This whole assimilation stuff is nothing more than dimestore rhetoric so that political conservatives can quickly spout off the talking points. I bet none of them have a problem going to Germantown or Chinatown. It's the immigrant lack of total assimilation and holding to of their own cultures and traditions that has flavored the United States as a melting pot. We got a little bit of everything. Just look at New York City. You've got Blacks, Whites, Italians,Irish, German,Russian, Polish,Greek, English, Chinese, Korean, Filipino, Puerto Rican, Dominican, Jamaican, Trinidad and Tobagan, folks from Barbados, Guyana, Belize, Grenada, Haiti. All of these folks inhabit very distinct sections of New York and give it it's flavor. They haven't TOTALLY assimilated and neither should anyone else have to totally assimilate.

    If the early settlers didn't totally assimilate, stop trying to make it a condition for other immigrants.
     
  20. Rolfe

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    Assimilation is subjective.
     

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