Featured The Sabbath was not Changed

To be fair the Baptist Confession does not state the change occurred in the Law but in the application of the Law to the particular day of the week. For example, they still call Sunday the "sabbath" rather than repudiating the fourth commandment as some do.

Second, in the time of Christ the Jews observed the "seventh day OF THE WEEK." There was nothing wrong in the jewish application of the fourth commandment to the seventh day "of the week", however, neiither does the fourth commandment restrict it to the seventh day "of the week" either. Neither the creation Sabbath or any of the fourth commandment passages contain the words "of the week." The "of the week" is drawn by deductive reasoning which has defects in the logical process.

1. The Biblical record never assigns NAMES to "days" but numbers.

2. The NAMES of days is drawn from pagan calendars long after the creation seven days and you cannot possibly prove that all pagan cultures had the same calendars or harmonized their names of days with the seven days in creation or that such a transition occurred in the first century that matched the seven days in creation.

3. There is nothing moral in any given portion of time. The morality exists only in the arbritrary designation of that poriton of time by God.

4. The Sabbath law is founded upon the Genesis account of the Sabbath which is in direct connection with TWO different uses of the hebrew term "yom" ("day" - Gen. 2:3,4). The first use by context refers to a twenty-four hour period of time (v. 3). The second use by context refers to a longer period than twenty-four hours (v. 4). God applies the Sabbath law to both and you cannot deny that ("day" "month" year" 50th year, etc.). Hence, to apply the Sabbath law to a twenty-four hour period is not wrong but to restrict it to a twenty-four hour period condemns God's own use and application of the Sabbath Law.

5. Therefore, the proper interpretation of the Sabbath law must coincide with God's own use and application. Therefore the Sabbath Law only demands a seventh portion of any stated qualfied time ("yom" twenty four hour or longer periods) that is preceded and followed by six equal portions of the same kind of time period.

Therefore, God can easily apply the fourth commandment to any "seventh" portion of time He chooses without violation of the Fourth Commandment. Therefore, the issue is whether the Bible teaches that he did apply it to the "first day of the week" as the stated portion of time for Sabbath observance. The biblical evidence from both the Old and New Testaments demands he did. The Jewish application of the Sabbath Law to their "seventh day OF THE WEEK" is not wrong but neither is it demanded by the fourth commandment which not only allows for application to other days of the week but indeed the Scriptures do supply examples where it was applied to other days of the week than the "seventh." So, even if you could prove that the Jewish seventh day of the week at the time of Christ corresponded with the seven days of creation it proves nothing as God is not restricted in arbritarily applying it to another seventh portion of time to commemorate a greater work of God then a now defective sin cursed creation.

 

according to YAH---He never changes--why would he change the day he made HOLY unto himself and command his people to keep it HOLY.

the Church is still his people--Pagans changed it to go along with the SUN god they worshipped get it SUN------SUNday

 

Breaking bread is NOT the same as keeping the Sabbath---Just because we have received GRACE doesn't mean we have a license to SIN and do what we want and change YAH's Laws.

We can break bread any day of the week---theres only 1 day set aside for worshipping and that's the Sabbath 7th day

 

Really the whole thing is foolish--why not do it on Saturday---that way you can be right if that's the way it is---the thing is people DONT regard YAH'S Laws anymore--but go about to establish their own.

 

your absolutely right according to the scripture friend :thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

that's what I been trying to tell him in another thread--:thumbs::thumbs:

 

Bob Ryan and the SDAs have one, two-fold mission in life, to fight the Scriptures and God with regard to,
1) the Free Grace whereby God forever saved his elect; and,
2) with regard to the New Testament Sabbath "because Jesus had given them REST—salvation-Rest—JESUS, having entered into HIS OWN Rest as God and there THEREFORE for The People of God remains valid a keeping of the Sabbath Day [which] … God … BY THE SON … THUS CONCERNING … IN THESE LAST DAYS, have SPOKEN."

Which is to “superstitiously venerate” the sabbath of the Jews who concerning the Sabbath SPEAK NO DIFFERENT THAN THE SDAs because they—like the Jews—would never accept a Sabbath that depends on its origin and survival and existence and continuance in CHRIST’S RESURRECTION from the dead “on and in the Sabbath Day”, PURELY.

 

"The day, The Seventh Day Sabbath of the LORD GOD", HAD inevitably, undeniably and indisputably been changed.

But the change to and of the Sabbath Day has not been a change that man had made or could make, but a change which only God could make and had made. Because the Sabbath's change was FUNDAMENTAL AND ESSENTIAL—not visible or superficial FROM the twenty four hour day "the DAY The Seventh Day [of the week]” TO another day. No, God never changed the Seventh Day to another day of the week. But He changed the calculable “Seventh Day” which He had “made” in MEANING, CHARACTER and in VIRTUE and HONOURABILITY, in that “God … had sworn by an oath that He would RAISE UP CHRIST TO SIT ON HIS THRONE … (and) the Lord having said unto my Lord, Sit Thou (Thee) … (Thou) being EXALTED on my Right Hand … hath made that same Jesus whom ye have crucified, BOTH LORD AND CHRIST.”

That was how the Lord Jesus Christ was “made”, “Lord of the Sabbath Day” and the Sabbath Day was “made”, “The Lord’s Day”.

 

Sorry, but you misquoted.

Just like Bob Ryan misquotes Confessions, you misquote Scriptures.

 

Bob Ryan has got stuck on this theme and won't get on one groove on his old LP.

 

Yes Bob Ryan is <incorrect> ...

and <<The first day of the week is the Lord's Day>> is an untruth.

 

That is where your trouble with the Scriptures start.

 

Not in the least; none of 'The Ten' is still binding on those for whom Christ Jesus is become their Word-of-God from God for God Himself; they don't need no more than Him for and as the Law of their conscience accepting Him as God's Word speaking, "Today, if you hear HIS VOICE, do not harden your heart!"

That is why I for one, cannot judge any "true believer" believing and keeping Sunday for the Lord's Day suffering the delusions created in them by the underhanded mutilators of the Scriptures with regard to the Sabbath.

... of whom Bob Ryan and Adventists are unrivalled collaborators and advocates ...

 

Pure nonsense!

None of the Ten or of the two stones or of the Voice from Sinai was given to or heard by <<ALL mankind>>—CLEARLY NOT <in the OT>!

Shucks! Pure nonsense!

 

If I may vent my feelings, I'd say you need to learn more than what is apparent in this post.

 

You refer to so many 'Scriptures' it is like the whole bunch of them are tied round their necks to the millstone you want to drown them with in the depths of your ocean of darkness.

One thing at a time!

Because each of the above has many times before one by one been answered. If you want their refutation repeated, bring them up one at a time again.

PS
I must add your post is ossified to the core and template of Sunday apologetics.