Hey, I know this is an hour-long interview, and I don't want folks to jump on me for giving you something that is long and tiring (like the RW OP), at times, but you can move ahead to points in the interview to hear what you'd like to hear. I put this on the forum to demonstrate why the church is softening its stand on gays within the church. This is sad and scary at the same time. However, one must remember that this talk show host and her station is broadcasted out of Frisco, and it is "gay central!" Any ways, listen to what you can tolerate, and your comments would be appreciated, and it may be something you may want to pass on to others. REMEMBER, this is the person who penned numerous "Jesus People" period songs, some of which are in hymnals, around the world, and she remains as famous, or noteworthy, as her songs. This notoriety is what is helping her to get a foot into the churches, and it needs to be pointed out, that the devil is using her to lift up the gay cause around the world. I, for one, and I had her and her group, sing at several concerts for churches I once held down, but this was before she divorced Russ and came out of the closet. Her songs will always be a blessing, and her present direction in life doesn't change the song and how it blesses hearts, but it should also be noted that her current life of sin doesn't mean she should not be held accountable in the present for her break from Scripture! ENJOY [and remember, you can use your curser to move the interview ahead, and back, to fit your time frame]:http://www.blogtalkradio.com/judy-j...a-stevens-for-those-tears-i-died-christianity One final thought - Marsha, her sister and Mom [who lead the church choir] attended the same church in high school. Although this was a United Church of Christ denomination, and they never preached salvation through repentance, but rather, through catechism, and joining the church which resulted in becoming a Christian! :tear: I remember the pastor calling me into the office [when I was youth leader, later on in life], and sat me down and lectured me for holding alter calls for the teens.