The soul of Jesus

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    According to the word of God from where was the soul of Jesus resurrected?
     
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    According to Acts:
    2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
    2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
    2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
     
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    I am not sure that the statement the soul of Jesus was resurrected is accurate. His body was resurrected, but His soul was never dead. It may just be semantics. I would like to hear some thoughts on it.
     
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    According to Acts:
    2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
    2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
    2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.


    What soul is this?
     
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    This is a tough one. It seems that the term resurrection applies more to the body and not the spirit.

    When Jesus died on the cross, his spirit went down into the heart of the earth. On the third day his spirit rose from the heart of the earth and reentered his body. This is the resurrection.

    We know that when Christians die now that their spirit goes directly to heaven. This is a rising up, but it is not the resurrection. The resurrection is when our spirit will be reunited with our body at the last day.
     
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    Here in is my point. When I hear the term resurrection I think of from the dead, the body. Yes it is body soul and spirit so to just say soul resurrection makes for questions. His soul was not dead. The body was however and that is what was resurrected. Some claim that the spirit is where the life comes from. Reference Gen.2:7
    And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

    The first word breathed comes from a Hebrew word that means blow or breath. The second word breath comes from a Hebrew word meaning spirit or breath. So if the spirit is the life of the person that comes from God one would have to ask what the soul is. Some claim this part is the part of us that holds knowledge or what makes us what we are. I really do not know since the bible does not spell it all out. I understand what a body is, but I am not clear on the distinction beween spirit and soul. However to say that the soul has been resurrected I am not sure that is accurate. But like I said I would like to hear some suggestions.
     
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    1 Peter 3:20 that is, eight souls were saved by water.

    Would you please give me the name if possible or relationship to a name of these eight souls.
     
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    If I understand your question the passage is speaking about Noah, his wife, and their three sons and their wives. And if I understand your reference as to soul keep in mind that these people were not dead. I know of no place where soul is used in regards to being dead or being resurrected. However like I said the terms soul, and spirit are not clearly defined in scripture so as being able to come to any kind of clear understanding as to what applies to them. If soul fits biblically when resurrection is used that is fine with me.
     
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    That is correct they were living souls. What does it take to make a living soul?

    Lev 21:11 Neither shall he go in 935 to any dead 4191 body 5315, nor defile 2930 himself for his father 1, or for his mother 517;
    [Select for Copy; Double click to (de-)select all] Num 6:6 All the days 3117 that he separateth 5144 [himself] unto the LORD 3068 he shall come 935 at no dead 4191 body 5315.
    [Select for Copy; Double click to (de-)select all] Num 9:6 And there were certain men 582, who were defiled 2931 by the dead body 5315 of a man 120, that they could 3201 not keep 6213 the passover 6453 on that day 3117: and they came 7126 before 6440 Moses 4872 and before 6440 Aaron 175 on that day 3117:
    [Select for Copy; Double click to (de-)select all] Num 9:7 And those 1992 men 582 said 559 unto him, We [are] defiled 2931 by the dead body 5315 of a man 120: wherefore are we kept back 1639 , that we may not offer 7126 an offering 7133 of the LORD 3068 in his appointed season 4150 among 8432 the children 1121 of Israel 3478?
    [Select for Copy; Double click to (de-)select all] Num 9:10 Speak 1696 unto the children 1121 of Israel 3478, saying 559 , If any 376 man 376 of you or of your posterity 1755 shall be unclean 2931 by reason of a dead body 5315, or [be] in a journey 1870 afar off 7350, yet he shall keep 6213 the passover 6453 unto the LORD 3068.
    [Select for Copy; Double click to (de-)select all] Num 19:11 He that toucheth 5060 the dead 4191 body 5315 of any man 120 shall be unclean 2930 seven 7651 days 3117.
    [Select for Copy; Double click to (de-)select all] Num 19:13 Whosoever toucheth 5060 the dead 4191 body 5315 of any man 120 that is dead 4191 , and purifieth 2398 not himself, defileth 2930 the tabernacle 4908 of the LORD 3068; and that soul 5315 shall be cut off 3772 from Israel 3478: because the water 4325 of separation 5079 was not sprinkled 2236 upon him, he shall be unclean 2931; his uncleanness 2932 [is] yet upon him.
    [Select for Copy; Double click to (de-)select all] Isa 10:18 And shall consume 3615 the glory 3519 of his forest 3293, and of his fruitful field 3759, both soul 5315 and body 1320: and they shall be as when a standardbearer 5263 fainteth 4549 .
    [Select for Copy; Double click to (de-)select all] Isa 51:23 But I will put 7760 it into the hand 3027 of them that afflict 3013 thee; which have said 559 to thy soul 5315, Bow down 7812 , that we may go over 5674 : and thou hast laid 7760 thy body 1460 as the ground 776, and as the street 2351, to them that went over 5674 .
    [Select for Copy; Double click to (de-)select all] Mic 6:7 Will the LORD 3068 be pleased 7521 with thousands 505 of rams 352, [or] with ten thousands 7233 of rivers 5158 of oil 8081? shall I give 5414 my firstborn 1060 [for] my transgression 6588, the fruit 6529 of my body 990 [for] the sin 2403 of my soul 5315?
    [Select for Copy; Double click to (de-)select all] Hag 2:13 Then said 559 Haggai 2292, If [one that is] unclean 2931 by a dead body 5315 touch 5060 any of these, shall it be unclean 2930 ? And the priests 3548 answered 6030 and said 559 , It shall be unclean 2930 .

    Everywhere that 5315 is translated body it is the word for soul. There is no reason to translate it body except for the belief that the soul can't die, yet the word of God says at least twice that the Soul (why not body) that sinneth it shall die.
     
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    One more thing if it wasn't the soul that was being resurrected in Acts 2, why did Peter say that it was the soul being resurrected? This spake he of the resurrection. In 1 Cor 15 it was Christ that died, it was Christ that was buried, it was Christ that rose was resurrected. It is people that were alive that died that are raised. If Paul had meant bodies he would have said bodies. Bodies are not spoken of until verse 35. Thirty four verses talking about the dead being raised and then body is spoken of. Why? David's been dead 700 years. How will the dead David be raised up(resurrected)? His body has bound to have rotted away. What kind of body will he have? Jesus was only in the ground three days and three nights therefore he did not see corruption. Unlike Lazarus the sister of him that was dead, saith unto him, Lord, by this time he stinketh: for he hath been [dead] four days.
     

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