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The Story of Kwanzaa

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  1. carpro

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    http://www.dartreview.com/archives/2001/01/15/the_story_of_kwaanza.php

    The Story of Kwaanza

    By J. Lawrence Scholer | Monday, January 15, 2001

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    The founder of Kwanzaa, Ron Everett, a.k.a. Maulana Ron Karenga, stood at the forefront of the black power movement in the 1960s. Karenga distinguished himself as a ‘cultural nationalist’ as opposed to a traditional Marxist. In 1965 Karenga founded the United Slaves Organization (US), a group that would rival the Black Panthers on the UCLA campus. The US was more radical than the Panthers, setting off quarrels between the two.

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    ...On September 17, 1971, Karenga was sentenced to one to ten years in prison on counts of felonious assault and false imprisonment. The charges stemmed from a May 9, 1970 incident in which Karenga and two others tortured two women who Karenga believed had tried to kill him by placing ‘crystals’ in his food and water.

    A year later the Los Angeles Times described the events: ‘Deborah Jones, who once was given the title of an African queen, said she and Gail Davis were whipped with an electrical cord and beaten with a karate baton after being ordered to remove their clothes. She testified that a hot soldering iron was placed in Miss Davis’ mouth and placed against Miss Davis’ face and that one of her own big toes was tightened in a vice. Karenga, head of US, also put detergent and running hoses in their mouths, she said.’

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    James Coleman, a former Black Panther, argues, ‘By only stressing the unity of black people, Kwanzaa separates black people from the rest of Americans. Americans must unify on whatever principles ensure we live in a safe, prosperous, God-loving country, with the race and ethnicity of any American seeking to abide by those principles being of no consequence.’


    And the Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson says "This is not a celebration of African harvest; it is a political statement for the establishment of a black nation and racial hatred against whites."



    NOTE:

    Kwanza Pledge of Allegiance

    "We pledge allegiance to the red, black, and green, our flag, the symbol of our eternal struggle, and to the land we must obtain; one nation of black people, with one G-d of us all, totally united in the struggle, for black love, black freedom, and black self-determination."
     
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    Learn about Kwaazna, it's NOT worth celebrating:

    http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/opinion/16311639.htm

    (Gag). To start with, this makes absolutely NO sense:

    Unity & Self-Determination
    Collective work & Responsibility
    Cooperative Economics (oxymoron maybe?)

    What purpose? Faith in what? Contradictory...

    Seven, a divine number. Also a stolen one by this Communist thug known as "the founder of Kwanzaa, the made-up holiday":

    http://www.retakingamerica.com/commentary_kelly_006.html

    Then, of course, the race/shame/remorse card is played:

    And poorly at that.

    At least Bush just sent vague greetings "to those observing Kwanzaa" this year instead of going multicultural on it again. The holiday's a joke.
     
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    Thanks for posting this information for those who may not know about it.

    Lady Eagle
     
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    I do not know what to make of it . . .

     
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    I thought it started in Africa??? You sure that story is accurate?
     
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    The story is accurate. The myth that it started in Africa is working evidently.
    This "holiday celebration" has absolutely no history before the 60's in ANY nation.
     
  7. carpro

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    Kerenga is a Marxist who based this phony holiday on what je called the best of Chinese and Cuban style communism.

    The seven principles of kwanzaa read like rules to live by in a perfect Communist society.


    Umoja (Unity) To strive for and maintain unity in the family, community, nation and race.
    Kujichagulia (Self-Determination) To define ourselves, name ourselves, create for ourselves and speak for ourselves.
    Ujima (Collective Work and Responsibility) To build and maintain our community together and make our brothers' and sisters' problems our problems and to solve them together.
    Ujamaa (Cooperative Economics) To build and maintain our own stores, shops and other businesses and to profit from them together.
    Nia (Purpose) To make our collective vocation the building and developing of our community in order to restore our people to their traditional greatness.
    Kuumba (Creativity) To do always as much as we can, in the way we can, in order to leave our community more beautiful and beneficial than we inherited it.
    Imani (Faith) To believe with all our heart in our people, our parents, our teachers, our leaders and the righteousness and victory of our struggle.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=25097

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    "For his course “Introduction to African American Studies,” Carroll requires students to read the book Introduction to Black Studies by Maulana Karenga. Karenga, a self-proclaimed “African socialist,” is the founder of the 1960’s militant black power organization United Slaves. He is also the creator of the African American holiday Kwanzaa and its underlying philosophy called Kawaida. According to Karenga, Kawaida, which is covered in the required text, borrows from “early Chinese and Cuban socialism,” with Kawaida practitioners believing that one's race “determines life conditions, life chances and self-understanding.” In the preface of the book Introduction to Black Studies, Karenga admits that the text is “self-consciously Afrocentric,” and “demands that Black Studies root itself in the African experience.”


    What to make of it?

    The "holiday" is as big a fraud as it's creator. It has nothing to do with African heritage and everything to do with advancing Karenga's own special brand of Marxism.
     
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    A few years ago, I read up on the holiday and the views of "professor" Karenga, I got rid of my "Twas the night before Kwanzaa" book.

    Seriously, this guy is rabid in his hatred of non-Blacks, freedom, and Christianity. It disturbs me that any of his tripe is put on equal footing with Christmas (or Hanukah, for that matter).
     
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    Whatever the origins, anyone has the right to celebrate whatever holidays they choose. Doesn't make it less legitimate than any other.

    I hereby declare January 1 of every year a celebration of Magnetic Poles, to be commemmorated with parties the night before in Times Square and around the world.
     
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    I much prefer Festivus.
     
  12. Baptist in Richmond

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    What exactly was the intent of trashing this holiday? What does anyone hope to accomplish?

    Just curious,
    BiR
     
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    I challenge you to the test of (what was it George and his father participatated in)?
     
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    I decline to participate in feats of strength because I am saving up my strength to make posts on the BB. (A perfectly reasonable out, according to the tradition.)

    IMO, we can dispense with the Airing of Grievances because that is being admirably fulfilled in many places on this board.

    (Hang around until Jan. 25 and we can celebrate Rabbie Burns' birthday. Anyone with a good recipe for armadillo haggis?)
     
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    Noooooooo! That's my favorite part! I save up alll year for that.
     
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    Since when is the truth trash?
     
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    To de-legitimize it.
     
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    carpro Well-Known Member
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    Unnecessary.

    Once the truth is known, one should realize it was never legitimate in the first place.
     
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    You're kidding, right?

    I can see why you would feel compelled to de-legitimize it, as these principles are most certainly tools of the devil.

    Now, that being said: why do you possibly need to de-legitimize it?

    BiR
     
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    I don't see how you can say they are tools of the devil.

    Just phony. Contrived. Nothing at all to do with African heritage.
     
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