The tomb of Jesus....

Yes, it is sad, pure utter nonsense.

 

But it IS the tomb of Jesus. "Jesus" back in the day was like "Mike" today. jesus was one of the most popular names during that time.

 

:laugh: DNA? What would they compare it to? People seem willing to believe anything but the truth. Sad.

 

1. Jesus, executed as a criminal, would not have been buried honorably with his family.
2. The tomb is in Jerusalem. Jesus' family is from Galilee.
3. Jesus' family was poor and would not have been able to afford a cave tomb and all the ossuaries.
4. No respected archaeologist (including Amos Kloner, the guy who made the find) or archaeological journal will endorse this "find", which is actually close to thirty years old.
5. DNA evidence can only tell us 1) that the people in the tomb are first-century, Palestinian Jews, and 2) that they're from the same family. No more than that can be deduced without a living direct descendent

But it makes a convenient excuse not to believe.

Michael

 

Jesus never "had" a tomb, in the first place. He just borrowed one for three days.

"He is not here, He is risen, as he said!"

BTW, I believe that 'borrowed tomb' to be "the Garden Tomb", for it is in the right place.

Ed

 

good points. Discovery channel airs the liberal anti-Christian propaganda on this coming Sunday March 4.

 

The tomb of Jesus,,,, is empty. Any other tomb, is not the biblical Jesus, and they have no possible way of proving it is Him.

 

I would not get too upset about this.

It is a case of sensationalism + greed = $en$ationali$m plus a desire to discredit the most predominant religion in America.

It has no backing among serious scholars who are simply interested in the truth. For the most part, the only people who will buy into it are those who want to.

These charlatans are gloating their way to the bank. That is sad and disgusting. However, unless they repent of their charlatani$m, the final and eternal installment of their wages will not be something they gloat over. The One most dishonored by it will deal with it Himself and will do so with perfect justice.

 

He doesn't do the same thing with mohammed because mohammed isn't true, no reason to discredit him.

 

I would urge a note of caution here.

1. They are using valid principles of statistics to calculate the odds of these names all appearing in a single tomb "by accident". It is the same calculation as one might do for "what are the odds that 6 people in a large crowd would all be friends having this set of names". I don't know that the "statistics" math itself is the problem.

2. It is conceivable that Mary of Magdala who did annoint the feet of Jesus for burial and who went to his tomb for embalming - might later have funded a place as a well marked burial cave for his relatives.

3. Since we have the Jerusalem council in Acts 15 pre-70AD it is possible that some key members of the early Christian church remained in or around Jerusalem.

4. Since the practice for the ossuary collection was to pick up the bones of the dead as much as a year later and then move them into an ossuary - they people may not all have died in Jerusalem.

5. Jesus is called "Jesus Son of David" in the NT by His followers - not "Jesus Son of Joseph" and since Jesus is a "common name" it is likely that someone else in Mary's family had that name as well by the time you reach 70 A.D.

6. The Jews of Jesus' day and the NT church age were very very annoyed by the Christian "sect" and would have done anything to squash it. The Christians were claiming a bodily resurrection "from the start" so an easy "discredit" would have been to go to this extremely well marked family tomb and ponit to his ossuary that would
be well known by all around.

Notice that John the Baptist's followers did not have to claim "he was resurrected" to uphold him as a great man of God. Doing so would have made it incredibly easy to discredit any group still having faith in the ministry of John. They could never adopt such an easily disproved claim right from the very start - and still hold the group together.

The bottom line is - if it turned out that these names are related to Mary in some way it would not matter to the Christian faith. But "Jesus Son of David" who is in fact "Jesus Son of God" could not be there since He experienced a bodily resurrection on week-day-one. Another tactic used on that show and on the history channel's show about Noah aired at the same time is to find some liberal Christians whose faith is so shallow that they really don't need anything in the Bible to be true to cling to the "kind of Christianity" that they adopt. One that does NOT set the world on fire with evangelism. One that does NOT seek and saved the lost - it merely corrupts the faith of the saints.

In Christ,

Bob

 

Where do you think they got DNA to compare?
If you take any tomb, and find a family there, and try and get DNA samples, and if you do, and you compare them all together, guess what you'll find. A related family, that shares DNA. This in no way proves that the bones are Jesus, or Mary or anyone else from the bible.

 

Why is it bad? For the past 2000 years there have been people who deny the deity of Christ. There's nothing new under the sun. Why should it rock your faith? Jesus is alive and well. His bones are not here. They are with Him.


Ecclesiastes 1
9 That which has been is what will be,
That which is done is what will be done,
And there is nothing new under the sun.

 

how can it even be scientifically possible to come up with a high probability when all they can possibly do is test DNA from person #1 to DNA from person #2, without knowing for sure who either person is.So what is person #1 is related to person #2, it is exactly as you would expect in a family tomb, what does it have to do with Jesus Christ? Nothing! Jesus wasn't buried in a family tomb, He was buried in a borrowed tomb, why, because He wasn't going to stay there permanently, He only needed it a few days.
No matter how those tests come out, it can not be bad, why, we know Jesus is not in any tomb. Satan wants people to doubt the resurection of Jesus. As christains we can be asured it is true.