Rom. 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. I have challenged our Arminians friends to provide a Biblical definition of what the Fallen nature IS. None have provided any such definition to this point. They have told us about the consequences of sin and about the remedy for sin but not one have given a Biblical definition of what the fallen nature IS! Paul in Romans 8:7-8 defines what the fallen nature IS. The Greek term translated "carnal" is elsewhere translated "fleshly." The word "mind" is not the usual word for mind which is "nous" but "phronema" and refers to the "mindset" or the disposition of the mind. This is the mind under the control of the law of sin as described just previously in Romans 7:18-20 or the fallen nature that loves sin and opposes God. It resides with the flesh (Rom. 7:14,18, 24) and is described in union with the flesh or "This body of death". Note that Paul says it "IS enmity" not that it might "become" or has the "potential for" enmity as Arminian doctrine of the fallen nature demands. The linking verb "is" is a STATE OF BEING verb and thus is describing what it "IS" by nature. The carnal mind IS enmity. That is what it IS and thus cannot be anything other than what it IS, which defines its nature. The term "enmity" means a STATE OF WAR. Hence, the fallen nature IS what it is - a state of war against God. This is what it is BY NATURE. That is its condition. That is its STATE OF BEING. That is not its POTENTIAL or what it MAY BECOME due to hardening but that is what it IS. What something IS, is its nature. The whole Arminian view of fallen man denies what it IS by nature as they invent out of thin air some other kind of fallen nature which has only the potential to be hardened and as well as the potential to love and submit to God. Paul's view states this IS its nature and that is why it IS always at all times resistant to God's will/law - "and IS not subject to the law of God." Again, this "IS" what it "IS" by nature. By nature it is RESISTANT to God's will at all times (present tense continuous action verb) because at all times it "IS" at war with God by nature and IS resistant as that "IS" its nature. This 'IS" what it "IS" from birth to death as man comes into the world with this kind of FALLEN NATURE and will leave this life with this kind of fallen nature. Paul says this is an irreversable condition of total inability - "neither indeed can be." The word "can" refers to ability not to permission or potentiality. It is irreversable because of what it "IS" by nature - it is in a STATE OF WAR and it is RESISTANT to the revealed will of God. To cease being in a state of war and to cease being resistant to the will of God means to CEASE BEING WHAT IT IS. Total inability is due to total depravity (enmity, not subject to). The fallen nature CANNOT (neither indeed can be) simply because it WILL NOT (enmity, not subject to) and it CANNOT because of what it "IS" by nature. Hence, Total depravity is the cause of total inability. The fallen nature CAN NEVER BE SAVED. It remains the same BEFORE and AFTER the salvation of the elect (Rom 7:18) as salvation is God creating a NEW CREATURE/nature that loves righteousness and true holiness and hates sin: Eph. 4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. Rom. 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: Eph. 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus... 2 Cor. 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.