The Translators intent??

On the cover of the Refuel you gave a link to:

HOT MOVIES, MUSIC & READS.

It's a Bible all right... NOT!!

 

...and SFIC has spoken!

 

Maybe you could find a "W" and a "P" study bible, Linda. :thumbs:


So the BibleZines have life application topics suited to the reader.
It is a study bible for a select young audience.

I encourage you and your husband to check out CBD and examine the sample pages.

Rob

 

So...as a BB moderator, you broke a BB rule deliberately...and you are a moderator...why?

I saw nothing "worldly" (sinful) on that packaging. Please tell me you know what worldly means...

 

Put a leather cover on them and they'd go just as fast. :laugh:

I encourage you to look them over, Pastor.

You don't need Biblezines to appeal to the flesh.
There a few of us who have lusted for a Smyth-sewn goat-skin Bible. :smilewinkgrin:

Rob

 

I know it's a violation of BB rules to post an image bigger than the BB logo. I also know that you are a moderator, because that is what is under your name. I also know that you know what the rules are, and deliberately posted that image, according to your post. Am I leaving anything out?

This is proof you don't know what the "world" means. A "worldly" magazine would be a gossip magazine, a porno magazine, or anything promoting sin. This might be a shock...but not all magazines are 'worldly'. I saw nothing sinful (worldly) on either of these Bibles. It might be easier if you cut to the chase and state explicitly what you are referenceing as "worldly".

 

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Webdog - I saw nothing "worldly" (sinful) on that packaging. Please tell me you know what worldly means...

Draw 'em with the world, the world wins 'em.

 

Pastor Bob and Standing Firm this is not a question that either of you have the answer to. Nowhere in the Bible is this topic addressed. If the author of the book who knows all things didn't want his word published in certain ways he would have given us 11 commandments not 10.

This whole issue about which Bible to read, which is the correct translation, which is the proper format is of man. Old men these days make pronouncements about the state of one's soul based on his position regarding an individuals preference in Bibles. They say the reason society is in the awfull mess it is now in is because Satin has taken over the board rooms of Thomas Nelson and Zondervan Corp.

If you really want to know why we are in the mess we are in, look in the mirror. I know I am and I don't like what I see. I'm part of the problem, not beause I read the New King James version, but because I don't always love my fellow man the way Jesus loves me.

Look at how many translations/versions/editions/updates/annotated what-evers were published from Tyndale to the ASV. There were, even when printing books was slow and expensive new offerings constantly in the market. Look at all the unbelievers, look at all the sin that was in the world when the KJB was the only Bible in the english language. Don't sing "Just as I am" on Sunday morning if you are going to take exception to the length of my hair or the binding of my Bible.

Back in 1976, as a freshmen in college I had a desire to know my God. I figured the best way to learn about Him was to go to a bookstore and buy a Bible, which I did. The nice lady at the Christian bookstore I went to sold me a King James version published by Thomas Nelson. I took the Bible back to my dorm room and for the next 2 months read it every day. At the end of that time I decided I was getting no where and having trouble keeping my interest up. Not wanting to give up though, I went to the local department store and purchased a $2.49 paperback edition of the Living Bible. Several months later, in Feb of 1977, I accepted Jesus as my Lord as Savior, with the Living Bible in hand. No church, no doctrine, no advanced theology degrees involved, just me, my Living Bible, a born again friend and a Jesus that loved me.

I read that Bible for 3 years, taping the cover on and mending ripped pages. There are mountains of notes on it's pages. I "traded in" my LB for a NIV, hard back which I read faithfully for 11 years until I had the money to buy a leather cover NIV, now 17 years old is still in magnificent shape, and an old friend that I get together with every day. But according to some of you, I'm not saved becasue my hair touches my ears and I study from the NIV and NKJB. Having moved to a new state, looking for a new church, I went to the one closest to my house (with my well used NIV in hand) and was told that I didn't have a real Bible and needed to accept Jesus into my life. News to me.

As Norm Abrams (master carpenter and host of The New Yankee Workshop) says, "If our forefathers had plywood, I'm certain they would used it". This he said in response to those who don't consider plywood to be a material "real craftsmen" would use. So, what Bible do real Christians use? Plywood or solid Oak? Really, some of you folks need to grow up.

I'm glad that you all are not the ones deciding who gets in. I know I'm rambling on but this is the way I see it.

Respectfully,
Tom (not a pastor)

 

These Bibles are printed because they are appealing and suit our desires.

Yep, that's exactly why the printers of the OP are thinking.

Sorry guys, but I buy new Bibles regularly. I seem to be building quite a collection. I don't always buy them because I desire to know God better, though that does make a good excuse.

Sometimes I buy them simply because I like the cover, layout and/or the articles within. The Archaelogy Bible was one of those. It appealed to my sense of history more than my desire to read the scriptures. If it had simply been to read scripture, well I believe around here somewhere I have just about every Bible I've ever owned since childhood. I don't need a new Bible just to learn and draw closer. That I might get that as a side benefit is great (and I have). But I don't think I sin by buying a Bible just because it attracts me any more than I sin by purchasing food that appeals to me.

Why on earth we would consider it offensive to have a Bible that appeals to young folks is beyond me. We old people like our unobtrusive leather bound Bibles (I bought mine when I was about 25), our young people like something different.

Get the Bibles in question. Read through them, then come back with better reasons for objecting to them than flashy pics and articles on dating. Young people need good advice on dating! If the article therein give non-Biblical advise, then you have something to complain about. You might even get me to agree with you at that point.

Matter of fact, I think we can hardly have a decisive debate about these two until we've all obtained copies and read them for ourselves. Anyone up for that?

 

Again I repeat...

They just don't get it, do they Pastor Bob?:tonofbricks:

 

Your duck just won't fly will it?

 

It's much easier to cast stones than to actually pick one up and see what it is about, Ann. Surely you know that by now?

Yes, the two examples look like a worldly magazine, and feature "articles" about current topics and issues facing teens. What is the main issues? That they aren't somber or reverent enough? that they look like something a teen would actually pick up and look at? I just don't get it.

If I had some of these I would put them in the hands of our youth group as soon as I could. Why? Because they would be more likely to read something that is tailored for them and the issues THEY are facing. That it is also the word of God just makes it a super-duper win in my book.

I teach a great group of teens, but I know that in any given week there are only a couple or three who actually picked up their bible. Doesn't mean they are heathen or all lost... it means that it does not have the level of importance that it should. To them the bible is a book about other people, other places... not them. I know, I have been there. Without something, someone to make it relevant, it has no impact.

I taught Wednesday night on cults, but I didn't connect it to them like I should have. I could see that they weren't focused on the lesson, so I stopped, had prayer, and had a straight heart=to=heart talk with them about the loss of a life-long friend. That was something they could relate to, as the friend was my dad's best friend and I had known him all of my life. I was able to use something that linked to their life to show the brevity and fragility of life.

So what if these biblzines look like a magazine. Put it in the hands of a teen and let them make the decision. If they will rea it, even just read the articles (which are bible lessons in disguise), it was worth the price paid for it.

 

I'm sorry, but the Bible is NOT a manual on beauty secrets. There is absolutely NO comparison. Putting Scriptures verses in a magazine does not make it Christian....nor does it make it a Bible. I have no desire to read something like this neither would I ever buy one for my granddaughters.

Christ in you makes your face shine (it is a beauty of the heart...the inward beauty). Outward beauty is of the flesh. Matthew 5:14-16 does not talk about "outward beauty" and "faces shining":

Matthew 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Matthew 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

This is talking about Godly living before men...nothing about a "glowing face".

That boat won't float, Ann