The Truth about Global Warming

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  1. Helen

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    An excellent letter was printed in our newpaper today in the Letters and I think that some of its points would be good to mention here. Thus, it is partially quoted:

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    "Global warming...puzzles scientist." To hear politicians, environmentalists and major media, there is no puzzle here. Greenhouse gases, internal combustion engines, freon from air conditioners or any source of man-caused CO2 is the culprit.

    But wait a minute! The missing words in the above quote are "on Pluto."...Real scientists to date have found global warming on Jupiter, Saturn, and its moon Enceledas, Venus, Mars, and on Neptune's moon Triton, as well as Pluto.

    Have you heard Al Gore or other doom and gloomers mention these inconvenient truths?...Gore tells us there is "a consensus" that greenhouse gases, especially CO2 is [sic] the cause. ... About 40 years ago there was "a consensus" we had global cooling.

    Real scientists tell us the strongest greenhouse gas is H2O and, in the scheme of things, the effects of CO2 are negligible.

    ...The environmentalists should agree that if neighboring planets are warming, it is not caused by the flatulence of cows, Humvees or hair spray.

    Here's a thought, could it be caused by the sun?"
     
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    The real question about all this fanatical promoting of this global warming idea being caused by humans is why are they promoting it? I believe there is an agenda--a motive to their madness, and I believe it's the quest for a world ruled by some world governing body much like the U.N. Liberals would love nothing better than for the United States to be in submission to the U.N. and will utilize anything, even if they have to fabricate it, to realize their hearts desire. Just like the hearts of God's children will flow towards His desires, so the hearts of the lost will naturally be in line with their fathers desires.
    I believe Satan is manuevering his pawns, whether they realize it or not, to set the stage for that end time world governing body ruled by the Antichrist. Believing lies is something the lost naturally do therefore pitching lies is what lost leaders have perfected.
     
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    Jerry Falwell shares some light on this subject--



     
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    Whether or not this is part of a cyclical pattern, no one really knows right now. The fact is that the sun has been measured as warming, or putting out a higher ultra violet light content (the peak part of its spectrum) for at least fifty years, if not more. The ultra violet reflection back from Uranus is what is measured in terms of accuracy of the sun's increase there. There are also instruments in space which measure other parts of the sun's spectrum. The peak in radiation that occurs with the sunspot cycle has been getting progressively higher in the last century.

    So yes, there is global warming -- for quite a few globes!

    Man has nothing to do with it and can do nothing about it.

    But perhaps that is the crux of the issue. Man wants to feel he has some control over this, and the easiest way to try to feel he can do something about it is to blame some cause here on earth that can be modified, if not fully corrected.

    So while there may be ulterior motives for some, perhaps just the fact that there is a strong desire to somehow stop what might be happening could be one of the causes for wishing to blame men themselves. If we did it, then we could stop doing it.

    But we didn't, and we can't.

    That would be far more frightening to many, and it would, as you mentioned, also play into the hands of others who are looking for multinational control.
     
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    I did not see gores movie. He is to much a raving lunatic to have any credibility. But if he left out some of the facts presented int his thread then it brings into question his credibility even more. At this point you could add the whole of his credibility and add $1.25 to it and get yourself a cup of coffee at Dunkin Donuts.
     
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    I dont worry about global warming one iota. I dont worry about it. I dont care about it and I dont believe it. It is nothing but a plot to put more of our freedom into the hands of Big Government and to turn the U.S. into a third world country. I am sick ans tired of all these wealthy "gulfstream environmentalists" trying to tell me what king of car to drive, what kind of light bulbs to put in my house and worse of all possibly raising my taxes to fix a problem that exists only in the minds of polititians and scientists who have a socialist agenda this country.

    I would suggest that everyone read Michael Crightons book "State of Fear". It is a novel of course but it is based on alot of global warming baloney and will show you just how far these people are willing to go to push their cause.

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/0061015733/?tag=baptis04-20
     
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    At last, reason.
     
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    This is what I've thought also, but kudo's to you for being able to clearly state it. I would add only that, some or even many Christians are being and will be deceived.
     
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    I believe that in the history of this planet there has been a steady ebb and flow of the temperature of the earth that we humans have nothing to do with.
    The global warming crowd will have their work cut out for them. Since it is very difficult to convince people that the earth is warming while they are shoveling three feet of snow from their roof in 10 degree temperatures they will resort to other means. read Michael Crighton's "State of Fear".
     
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    JOHNK48

    I continually thank God our pastor doesn't preach politics.

    Doesn't matter what the cause, the climate is changing. Does anyone doubt that the ice caps are shrinking? Last year Woods Hole Oceanagraphic Inst. signed on to the hypothesis that fresh water dumping into the North Atlantic could short circuit the Gulf Stream. This past Dec The Gulf Stream quit running north for 6 days and immediately there were great storms in Europe.
     
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    I read your post to Barry, Bill, and he remarked, seriously, "That's interesting!" What he has told me is that yes, the sun has been measured as warming and that this will, in turn, heat the waters at the equator more, since they get more constant, steady sunlight at all times of year. This will, in turn (especially with melting of the ice flows) cause a greater differential between the cold in the north and south and the heat at the equator in the waters of both and this will indeed disturb currents and bring about fiercer storms.

    Cold will be colder and hot will be hotter as the differential in the air currents causes them to fight it out. Thus the horrid storms in the midwest and east now and the terrible drought in Australia at the same time. Watch for hotter than average summers in the east and midwest as well now. The 'average' yearly temperatures will not vary much, but the extremes will be more extreme. (the average of 5 and 7 is 6, but so is the average of 11 and 1!).
     

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