The Truth About ISIS & Obama’s War Speech

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  1. poncho

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    By announcing a plan to arm so-called “moderate” Syrian rebels who have directly provided weapons to ISIS terrorists, in addition to air strikes inside Syrian territory, Obama is pouring gasoline on a raging inferno.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgmFQoTJ11c#t=224
     
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    Why supply these "moderates"? We supplied arms to Sadaam Hussein. Why not? As long as the military-industrial complex makes money, right? We should arm NOBODY but the Kurds.
     
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    We should arm nobody but the US military.
     
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    The USA hasn't quit on its doctrine of Low Intensity Conflict, it seems. Just "tailored" it to whatever situation it's applicable.
     
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    If by Low Intensity Conflict you mean arming the worst of the worst radicals and using them as proxy armies and regime change agents you are right.
     
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    Top u.s. Military official admits: Our arab allies are funding isis

    During his testimony in front of the Senate Armed Services Committee, America’s top military official General Martin E. Dempsey admitted that the United States’ Arab allies in the middle east are funding ISIS.

    Dempsey, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was asked by Republican Senator Lindsay Graham, “Do you know any major Arab ally that embraces ISIL?”

    His response: “I know major Arab allies who fund them.”

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    The first mistake is giving the enemy an inkling of what we plan to do.
    You don't warn a murderer that you are going to shoot, you shoot.
    All Obama did was help them avoid what ever we ultimately do. Just as all of his pandering speeches have done.
     
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    To undermine Iran, which is predominantly Shiite, the Bush Administration has decided, in effect, to reconfigure its priorities in the Middle East. In Lebanon, the Administration has coöperated with Saudi Arabia’s government, which is Sunni, in clandestine operations that are intended to weaken Hezbollah, the Shiite organization that is backed by Iran. The U.S. has also taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria. A by-product of these activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda.

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/03/05/the-redirection

    The Covert Origins of ISIS [UPDATED 9.03.14]

    The Islamic militant group ISIS, formerly known as Al-Qaeda in Iraq, and recently rebranded as the so called Islamic State, is the stuff of nightmares. They are ruthless, fanatical, killers, on a mission, and that mission is to wipe out anyone and everyone, from any religion or belief system and to impose Shari'ah law. The mass executions, beheadings and even crucifixions that they are committing as they work towards this goal are flaunted like badges of pride, video taped and uploaded for the whole world to see. This is the new face of evil.

    Would it interest you to know who helped these psychopaths rise to power? Would it interest you to know who armed them, funded them and trained them? Would it interest you to know why?

    This story makes more sense if we start in the middle, so we'll begin with the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi in 2011.

    The Libyan revolution was Obama's first major foreign intervention. It was portrayed as an extension of the Arab Spring, and NATO involvement was framed in humanitarian terms.

    The fact that the CIA was actively working to help the Libyan rebels topple Gaddafi was no secret, nor were the airstrikes that Obama ordered against the Libyan government. However, little was said about the identity or the ideological leanings of these Libyan rebels. Not surprising, considering the fact that the leader of the Libyan rebels later admitted that his fighters included Al-Qaeda linked jihadists who fought against allied troops in Iraq.

    These jihadist militants from Iraq were part of what national security analysts commonly referred to as Al-Qaeda in Iraq. Remember Al-Qaeda in Iraq was ISIS before it was rebranded.

    With the assistance of U.S. and NATO intelligence and air support, the Libyan rebels captured Gaddafi and summarily executed him in the street, all the while enthusiastically chanting "Allah Akbar". For many of those who had bought the official line about how these rebels were freedom fighters aiming to establish a liberal democracy in Libya, this was the beginning of the end of their illusions.

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    While a great deal media attention has focused on the fact that the State Department did not provide adequate security at the consulate, and was slow to send assistance when the attack started, Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh released an article in April of 2014 which exposed a classified agreement between the CIA, Turkey and the Syrian rebels to create what was referred to as a "rat line". The "rat line" was covert network used to channel weapons and ammunition from Libya, through southern turkey and across the Syrian border. Funding was provided by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

    With Stevens dead any direct U.S. involvement in that arms shipment was buried, and Washington would continue to claim that they had not sent heavy weaponry into Syria.

    It was at this time that jihadist fighters from Libya began flooding into Syria as well. And not just low level militants. Many were experienced commanders who had fought in multiple theaters.

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    House approves plan to arm and train isis to fight isis

    Syrian "rebels" are virtually all members of ISIS and al-Qaeda

    On Wednesday the House of Representatives approved Obama’s plan to train and arm “moderate Syrian rebels to counter the growing threat of the Islamic State organization,” according to The Washington Post.

    There is a problem with this: there are few if any “moderate” Syrian “rebels” to arm and train. In other words, Obama and Congress will arm and train ISIS and other al-Qaeda inspired radical Wahabist groups.

    No Such Thing as a Moderate, Secular Rebel Group

    Even The New York Times dispelled the myth there is such a thing as a secular and moderate opposition to the Syrian government. “Nowhere in rebel-controlled Syria is there a secular fighting force to speak of,” Ben Hubbard wrote for the newspaper on April 27, 2013.

    “My sense is that there are no seculars,” Elizabeth O’Bagy, of the Institute for the Study of War, told the Times.

    “Syria’s revolution is devouring its children, and ISIS is the devourer,” Joshua Landis, director of the Center of Middle East Studies at the University of Oklahoma, told The Christian Science Monitor last November.

    Much of the establishment media pretends the “moderate” Free Syrian Army (FSA) is secular and democratic. This is not merely a distortion, it is outright propaganda designed to mislead. Stephen Gowans writes:

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