The Ultimate Neo-"Conservative" Pro-Bush Column

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  1. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    This can't be serious (from the link above)

     
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    Ken, what this country needs to unite it in righteous indignation against all these evil muslims is another 9/11. At least that's what alot of the neocon columnists and "government officials" are saying these days. Looking at it that way one might think that the evil muslims who might bring this about are the neocons best allies in rallying us behind their cause. American global hegemony.
     
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    Unfortunately, C4K, it is. Family Security Matters is a real organization. Laura Ingraham is on its Board of Advisors, as well as former CIA Director R. James Woolsey.

    Here is the list of its Board of Advisors and Board of Directors:

    www.familysecuritymatters.org/about_board.php
     
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    The Family Security Matters organization masquerades as an independent "think tank" yet was highly influential in President Bush's re-election in 2004 and has links to top Neo-Con ideologues.


    The outfit poses as an advocacy group for a new breed of goose-stepping brownshirts - so-called "security moms," who are noted for their blind obedience to neo-conservatism as a result of believing every ounce of fearmongering that emanates from the Bush administration on the inevitability of mass casualty terror attacks.

    "In late 2004, Media Matters for America discovered that the phone number listed on FSM's website actually belonged to the Center for Security Policy (CSP), a rabidly hardline foreign policy outfit run by former Reagan administration figure Frank Gaffney," reports Right Web.



    The Center for Security Policy is an umbrella organization that includes the National Security Advisory Council, whose members hold senior positions within the Bush administration itself. Former and current members include Dick Cheney, Richard Perle, Elliott Abrams and the organization has also given awards to Donald Rumsfeld.


    The FSM foundation itself also has ties to the Anti-Defamation League, the International Women's Forum, numerous nationwide television and print media outlets, and includes on its board of advisors Neo-Con radio host Laura Ingraham and former director of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, James Woolsey.


    Representatives of FSM also routinely appear as guests on Fox News and their website is a cesspool of anti-American fervor - acting as a cheerleader for the invasion of Iran, the warrantless wiretapping program (opponents of which are labeled "traitors") and lauds the Patriot Act as "An irreplaceable tool utilized by our Secret Service to keep us safe." ​

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  5. Baptist in Richmond

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    Laura Ingraham?
    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    Thanks for that, Ken, hope all is well,
    BiR
     
  6. hillclimber1

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    A lot of truth in there, but it's over the top at the end. I liked the description of the fallacy of democracy.
     
  7. KenH

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    What about the middle part? Do you agree with the author that President Bush should have ordered the use of nuclear weapons to slaughter the Iraqis?
     
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    Don't get discouraged too much guys there's still Iran and Syria so maybe we'll get the chance to wipe out a whole population yet.
     
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    You forgot Lebanon.
    Due to the recent Executive Order, I am curious as to what is going to happen.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/08/20070802-1.html

    For the record, whatever the POTUS decides is the appropriate course of action in Lebanon is the only possible alternative and is not to be questioned in any way shape or form.

    Just wanted to make that clear....

    Regards poncho, hope all is well,
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    You and Ken sure know how to mischaracterize conservatives.
     
  11. KenH

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    Actually, hillclimber1, some of us on this board have you conservative hawks so well pegged that you find it extremely irritating. :)
     
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    This article has gone beyond conservative and liberal issues. It is advocating the destruction of our constitutional form of government. I do not see it leading to a unified populace under an absolute ruler. I see it leading to civil war. It is one thing to be fighting a war on multiple fronts. It is another thing entirely if one of those fronts is on your own turf.

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    I would hope that it would lead to Civil War and that those supporting freedom and democracy would win over the Fascists.
     
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    Truth be known, I actually feel sorry for you folks so indoctrinated in the socialists anti American agenda. Rather than "extremely irritated", I'd say sad.

    You don't miss a chance to malign the military, or GWB, or report any bad economic news, or just about anything bad for America. Yeah....sad.
     
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    It's right there at the link I provided. I can't mischaracterize what is on the POTUS website. Read it for yourself.

    You quite obviously didn't read what I wrote, despite the fact that you reproduced it in your post. Again, here it is:

    When it comes to this topic, I am now an acolyte, just like many on this board.

    1. The POTUS is always right and cannot be questioned in his policies towards Iraq or Lebanon. Whether it's more money, troops, or time, the POTUS cannot be second guessed.
    2. If the POTUS is ever wrong, see rule number one.

    Regards,
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    I have never maligned the military. I have criticized some policies of our federal government concerning how it uses our military.
     
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    BTW, I cannot find this article at the website:

    http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/

    Either it's a hoax, or the website was smart enough to take down the article and terminate the author.
     
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    Yessiree, we're all bad for America cuz we don't just shut up and follow orders like good little citizens are supposed to do. Shame on us for believing in and defending the rule of law and the U.S. Constitution. We're so bad!
     
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    This is the type of response that I have come to expect from you.
    Please show me where I ever used the word "conservative."
    As someone who actually understands the term, I was very careful NOT to use that word in any of my posts, which is obvious to even the most casual of observers.

    You seem to have a serious issue understanding the true meaning of the word "socialist." Now you have introduced the word "conservative" into the discussion.

    Would it be too much to ask that, if you are going to respond to me, you stick to what I actually write? I don't mind debate, but I simply do not appreciate the fact that you are putting words in my thoughts/ideas that very clearly are not there.........

    Regards,
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