The Untold Story of Terri Schiavo

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  1. freeatlast

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    That was a most tragic case of outright murder.
     
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    Never forget the people who told us she was not alive, that she would WANT this, and claimed compassion while they watched her starve to death over the course of a few days.

    I hate everything the left stands for, and I cannot think of a more justified reason TO hate their ideas as this, horrible murder.

    Shame on us.
     
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    [SIZE=+0][SIZE=+0][SIZE=+0]Yes Ann it was. But I think it was more tragic then we even begin to understand. For what ever reason this nations courts totally abandoned anything that even remotely resembles the foundation of freedom, rights and moral standards that we so strongly have supported in the past. If any other nation had hinted at doing what we did, and yes we, there would have been an outcry from this nations leaders so strong that even the most hardened people would have had to take notice. Yet we willingly and openly before all the world and more important before God Himself gave evidence of our true nature. [/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0][SIZE=+0]We hypocritically sing God bless America, which I refuse to sing, and proclaim that we live in the greatest country in the world, but prove by our actions that we are no better then the vilest of people now or who has ever lived who slaughter their own as well as others because of hardened hearts and miss-guided desires. Certainly we have no room to boast as a people or nation. No not before any other nation and especially before God.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0]I said at the beginning it was more tragic then we understand. This incident should have opened the eyes of the people and especially those who claim to know God and brought us to our knees in brokenness and shame at how far we have fallen, but instead it was like bump in the road only to harden the hearts of most to go on with life as it is and never see the seriousness of our own state.[/SIZE]
    One has to wonder just how much God will put up with before we are dealt with as was Sodom and the amazing thing is many would cry WHY?
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    The things that stuck out to me:

    The judge that sided with the husband never saw her, appointed counsel to represent her, nor had her brought to his court.

    The husband's attitude changed after receiving millions (the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil)

    They gave this "vegetable" morphine. Why if she was in a vegetative state?

    There was no review process in place since she was not a convicted murderer. Murderers on death row have more rights.

    She simply could not feed herself. She was on no life support but a feeding tube. This opens the door for the same kind of treatment to quadrapalegics, newborns and the MRDD who also have no physical ailments but simply cannot feed themselves.

    The sick legislation from the bench after the POTUS and congress pass bills to stop such things from happening...all while holding the original judge's decision as the "gospel".

    The fact an armed officer can stand at her bed preventing a mother from nourishing her child. So much for "to serve and protect".

    The hotter hell those involved in Terri's murder will inevitably suffer.
     
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    Previews of coming attractions in 2014 when the Health Care (eugenics, abortion and euthanasia) Bill takes effect.

    Any stroke victim unable to feed themselves (for instance) will then be at the mercy of the Federal Medical Board if one's family does nothing to save you.

    Many of us are worth more dead than alive. Not a problem for Christians but what if your kids are not saved?
    Take care to make a carefully worded will (or living trust).

    Not that going home is that bad.

    My sad prediction is that the Republicans will be unable (or unwilling) to ultimately repeal the Health Bill.

    I would love to eat crow.

    BTW, euthanasia is already the law here in WA State. It's called "Death with Dignity".
    Our neighbors to the south in Oregon as well, but at least they call it what it is "Assisted Suicide".

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    [FONT=&quot]bin Laden is quoted as saying, “We love death. The USA loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” (From the SS lesson {SBC} a couple of weeks ago.)

    It's apparent that bin Laden is/was not buddy-buddy with any liberals in the US of A!:BangHead:

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    This should be on the history section.
     
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    It's not history--it's our soon to be future thanks to Obamacare looming ahead of us.
     
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    My thoughts , exactly.
     
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    The naked truth and post script of Teri Schiavo

    We must look at the naked truth and that is the condition of her brain...she had none left..sorry i know its hard to swallow but come on.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Schiavo_catscan.jpg

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    Fair use for Terri Schiavo
    1.This is a comparison between a normal brain (aged 25 years) and Terri's brain
    2.This was released to news media from the doctor that performed the procedure. Zach (Sound Off) 15:14, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

    I cannot believe people are still holding on to same old inflamatory without studying the post script and history...things changed people the scan tells us alot of her condition..SHE HAD NO BRAIN LEFT.
     
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    When was the scan performed. It was released Sept. '05, but if this was immediately after the injury it would explain the damage.

    How can someone with "no brain" support life apart from merely nourishment? Brain dead is defined as irreversible end of all brain activity (including involuntary activity necessary to sustain life) due to total necrosis of the cerebral neurons following loss of blood flow and oxygenation to the brain. If this definition is accurate, she not only wasn't brain dead, but "had a brain". People without brains don't repeat or try to repeat phrases back to you.
     
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    The details of Terri's case are not the underlying problem.

    Granted she might have been "brain dead".

    The underlying problem is the future implication of the precedence of allowing a "brain dead" person to be starved to death.

    Will "brain dead" have a different and/or expanded definition under the Obama Bill (which the administration admits needs modifying).

    What will be the criteria? Will a stroke victim who is paralyzed and in need of constant care 24/7 fit the criteria? Who decides on the final outcome?
    If the family does not pay for the care, can the Federal Medical Advisory Board (might have a different name later on) decide for starvation based on the Terri precedence?

    We don't know and have not yet been told.

    Knowing the lust for power and money among some of our politicians and leaders,
    knowing the philosophy of Ezekiel Emanuel (Rahm's brother) an Obama medical advisor makes many of us wonder.


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    And I cannot believe people think it's okay to starve a person to death, brain damaged or not!

    I have a copy of her life story, written by her lawyer Mr. Gibbs. Terri recognized family members and tried to communicate. She was a living, breathing HUMAN BEING who did not require any form of "life support" to keep her heart and lungs working. All she needed was a feeding tube to aid in nutrition--AS DO MANY OTHER LIVING, BREATHING PEOPLE.

    This was murder and we would do well not to forget it, else the same happen to us and our loved ones when some educated idiot looks at a brain scan and no longer deems us worthy of life.
     
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    I would also like to point Petra to the autopsy report that stated """The frontal temporal and temporal poles and insular-cortex demonstrated relative preservation."

    She wasn't brain dead. Period.
     
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    So we HAD to starve her to death. It was the "compassionate" thing to do.
     
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    It was also reported that she was on a morphine drip.

    If she was brain dead she wouldn't need morphine.

    But I agree with those who say it is murder even if she were brain-dead.

    In addition Terri's parents were willing and able to take her home and care for her.

    The lawyered-up husband apparently wouldn't consent.

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    Was she conscious? Yes. Did she feel pain? Yes (ergo, morphine drip). Did she require sustenance? Yes.

    Medical definition of brain death: an irreversible form of unconsciousness characterized by a complete loss of brain function while the heart continues to beat. The legal definition of this condition varies from state to state. The usual clinical criteria for brain death include the absence of reflex activity, movements, and spontaneous respiration requiring mechanical ventilation or life support to continue any cardiac function.

    Not only did she have brain left, she didn't fit the medical definition of "brain death."

    I can't believe people are still falling for the crapola that was used to justify her being starved to death.
     
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    I read this post twice to make sure that I was reading what I thought I was reading. This is so idiotic and moronic that it is ALMOST unbelievable. Terri was so "brain dead" that her lungs functioned on their own, her heart beat on its own. She was on no life support system other than a feeding tube. The bottom line is that this was 1st degree murder plain and simple. I agree with Freeatlast on this I believe that we are dangerously close to Gods judgment falling in a way that will resemble Sodom and Gomorrah. The fact that there are those on what is supposed to be a christian forum that seem to be defending this murder is very telling as to how bad off this nation truly is.
     
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    By definition, Terri Schiavo was not brain dead. To try to continue to say that she was is a lie, flat out.
     
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