Theology that leads to rebellion?

I believe that to mean it is a great number. 50 million is a great multitude...but not compared to 50 trillion.

 

Thanks Hank for adding the Scripture to it.....that both clarifies & solidifies.

 

Spoken like a true universalist. Everybody's gotta get saved.

 

How? I noticed you posted this after my reply which you do quite often in order to disagree in a passive aggressive round about way.

 

What did I say that even remotely sounds like universalism? Do you know what that is?

Just because there are a large number of people in Heaven does not refute the narrow path that "few" find and the broad path that "many" are on. My entire point was that just because there are a large number of people in Heaven it does not mean that the majority of people will be in Heaven. If anything by you agreeing with Krydneck you lean closer to universalism.

I'll take Scripture at face value. Few find salvation in the big picture, not most.

 

Yea, and if it is true, as I think it is, that all babies go to heaven, then it is a plain FACT that heaven will be far more populated than hell.

But this is ONLY possible if the DoG are true.

If Arminianism or this nameless theology that some espouse here on baptistboard is true, then salvation is ALWAYS synergistic and babies CANNOT participate- so they are all doomed.

Of course the way they get around this is to deny the teaching of the entirety of the Bible that ALL are sinners in need of a Savior.

 

Let God's Word be true...

13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

 

So why then do you care how many are saved, 50 million, 50 billion, 50 trillion? Why not just leave it to God?

 

Babies don't have to find it.

As usual you attack someone as being against the Word of God simply because you do not understand the Word of God.

 

I wonder if they realize thats part of the Sin Nature of man that still wants to control things. Personally I dont know why that is. Isnt it better to let the Creator of the Universe do his own work without some little human creature interfering? But what do I know.:BangHead:

Oh Oh I know ....then we are puppets .....ever heard that ....puppets. He is pullin my strings. Who so better than the Creator of the Universe to pull your strings. Would we perfer the Devil to do it? LOL Funny stuff:godisgood:

 

Not sure based on what you posted here :laugh:

 

OK ...another :tongue3:Funiculi Funicula moment...:thumbs:

 

You have just inserted eternal consequences into the context. Show me how this implies eternity burning in hell or erternity in heaven.

[edit] This is a typical response. Question for 'hoi polloi': Do you WANT there to be only a few that 'make it' to heaven? Are you going to feel somehow vindicated if there are only a few and you're one of those few?

 

...you say that most likely due to the fact you are starting with the PB presupposition of two salvation's where it is not even implied.

Destruction = apart from God
Life = union with God

 

PBs are not the only ones that hold this position on this passage.

Christ as 'The Prophet' is speaking directly to the 'House of Israel'. This is a direct allusion to the Exodus generation (referenced many times in the NT) wherein estimates as high as 2.5 million Hebrew that left Egypt, only two of those, Joshua and Caleb (and families) 'made it' to the promised land of 'milk and honey'.


1 For I would not, brethren, have you ignorant, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 and were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 and did all eat the same spiritual food;
4 and did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of a spiritual rock that followed them: and the rock was Christ.
5 Howbeit with most of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness. 1 Cor 10

 

I understand that PB's are not the only ones, many free gracer's buy into the Millenial Exclusion eschatology which has been banned here on the BB as a "damnable heresy" along with the adherents and proselytes to such doctrine.

 

Who said I only wanted a few to make it to Heaven?!? What I want (and what God wants according to 2 Peter 3) and the reality of absolute truth are not the same. I don't want to die and my children to die, but the truth is it is going to happen. What I want is moot...God has said few will find the road to life, and life is only in Christ.

 

Your mouth runneth over. This is not the first time you've brought up the accusation of this heresy along with the implication that we should be banned from the BB. Now back up that mouth with facts, and plainly explain how 'PB's and many free gracer's' are 'Millenial Exclusionists', or shut up about it.

 

Don't try the tough guy bullying tactic on me, I'm not intimidated in the least. I only stated that ME's also hold to a "two salvation" eschatology. Scripture teaches no such thing, and the burden of proof is on you to show it does. The Administrators of this board also do not see it, and have deemed it as such...not I. I disagree with their assessment of the doctrine even though I believe it to be in error. Just saying "this passage is about eternal salvation, and this one is not" is not enough to prove anything.