I'm starting this thread so our new friend Jordan has a fresh platform from which to explain to us how "there is nothing we can do about it". I'd like to reply to Jordan's post here. Let's be fair Jordan. If this applies to me then it must apply to everyone here if you're going to be consistent, right? I mean if "there's nothing we can do about it" anyway why should we be focused on anything but the gospel? If Jesus came back tomorrow what would He have to say to all these other posters here that constantly rant about liberals and socialists and conservatives and democrats and republicans and abortion and the liberal media and the Russians and Islam and illegal immigrants and dictators in other countries and government spending and all the other things people here rant about? Who can tell who's lying to us and who isn't? Maybe the media is lying to us. Maybe the government is lying to us. Who can we believe? Can we believe Fox news? Or CNN? Can we believe what the Pentagon is telling us? Joel Osteen? Can we believe him? How about John McCain? Can he be trusted to tell us the truth? Or shouldn't we wonder about such things because "there's nothing we can do about it"? What's the difference between my rants about globalists and a conservative's rants about liberals? Or a liberals rants about conservatives? If "there's nothing we can do about it" then maybe we should stop voting. Right? Maybe we shouldn't spend time ranting about abortion and those who perform them? Maybe we shouldn't be ranting about Obama because "there's nothing we can do about it". Should Christians fight in any of our wars? Or defend the second amendment or any of the others? What about the constitution? Should we be worried if the government violates it if "there's nothing we can do about it"? If "there's nothing we can do about it" shouldn't we all quit posting in the current events and politics forums because it's all being done in vain and because all these rants will amount to "absolutely nothing". Go ahead take a look at all the threads here. There are many here who some might say obsess over "the socialist take over" and the democratic party. Go ahead take a look at the threads here. See how many there are on just those subjects alone, go back a few pages 50 or even 100 it's always the same. Go on up to current events and go through a few pages of postings there 50, 100 even 500 it's always the same. How many do you see that pertain to "liberals" and "democrats", hundreds? Thousands? Look at all the posts ranting about "liberals" and "democrats" and "socialism" and "marxism" and "liberals" and "democrats" and "liberals" and "democrats" and "socialists" all the time day and night "liberals", "democrats", "socialists", marxists", and Obama and Obama and Obama and Obama and Obama and Obama and Obama and . . . you get the point right? Shouldn't they stop being so focused on "liberals" and "democrats" and Obama because "there's nothing we can do about it"? Remember stick to the topic of the thread okay? This isn't a thread about me or you it's a thread about the notion that "there's nothing we can do about it". Okay Jordan you have the floor.