They Didn't Even Read It!

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  1. OldRegular

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    Apparently none of the people who voted for the $800 billion democrat slush fund [1000 pages] even read it. There wasn't time, they wanted it approved before anyone can find out how bad it is.

    The three Republican scalawags did not get what they were promised but like good little O'bamaites they went along.
     
  2. Steven2006

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    I am not for this bill, but I seriously doubt many of them ever personally read entire bills before voting. That is what they have a staff for. I am not saying this is a good thing, but the reality of the system our government has become.
     
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    The following is a recent version of the bill. Not sure it is the latest. The problem is it is total nonsense. No one could understand it.

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.+1:
     
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    The truth be known, our congressmen cannot stop this thing from happening. It's just the real world raising it's ugly head. They CANNOT do anything about it. Why talk to your congressman, "It's a done deal before even we had a thing called, "Election Time" Look in front and behind you, do you see anything but thin air?
     
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    I agree. I don't understand how these clowns stay in office year after year. When will "the people" wise up and just start voting them out? I guess everyone likes "their" guy.
     
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    I think we are watching the last gasps of a dying nation. The old Republic that we grew up in is dead, broke and has turned it's back on God. If you have read the Old Testament you already know how this story ends, with a bitter ugly fall.

    Just in therms of the economy, we have killed ourselves with debt
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=88851
     
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    Sadly, this is not a new phenomena. Congressmen have rarely read entire bills. That's just the way Congress has always worked.
     
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    Good video. Even though this is the status quo, maybe now that the GOP are on the outside they will stir up some change that will also hold them accountable when they get back in.

    We can hope.
     
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    Stop and think about it. When you have bought a new car, or some other major purchase (life insurance) have you read the entire contract? The Salesman will tell you everything is ok. So you sign. Likewise, the political bosses tell the congressman, all is ok, so just vote.

    Why do we keep voting them in - because of the seniority system. Seniority means power and more money for the district.
    Thus we need term limits.

    Salty
     
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    One has got to wonder if the 850 dollar billion bailout of last year that is now wasted money sponsered by Bush and the Democratic Congress was read any more than this one?
     
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    I don't wonder - I guarantee it was not read.
     
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    Okay...

    Absolutely. Every word. If I don't understand something, I ask. I also feel free to "veto" portions of the contract (by striking provisions I don't like and initialing them.

    If I don't like it or they won't accept my edits, I walk away.

    The salesman is likely not looking out for my interests. I have to take responsibility for myself. I don't sign anything I don't understand. That's one of the reasons it took about two hours to finalize closing on my home.

    And there's one of the major problems with Congress...
     
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    The only problem is that the Congresspeople who vote on the bills (or colleagues) are supposedly (or supposed to be) the same ones that write the bills (or their constituents do). This is not really applicable to a seller-buyer contract. Their "contract" effects the entire nation, the people affected do not really knowingly consent, and the laws are almost entirely one-sided.

    Support the Read the Bills Act and the One Subject at a Time Act!
     
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    I used to think otherwise regarding term limits. Now I see the wisdom that term limits offer.
     
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    Agreed...I do the same thing. Every contract that I enter into I strike out the clause that gives up my right to go to court and forces me into abitration. I've never had anyone refuse to go through on a deal either.

    You can tell it annoys some salespeople when you sit there and actually read the contract, but hey I'm not worried about their annoyance :).
     
  17. OldRegular

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    I believe one way we could get term limits is to eliminate the Congressional pension plan. Then they would have to get out and work for a living. Of course there is no way to do that short of a revolution. Realize its off topic but pertinent.
     
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    If you really want to see bipartisanship, try to take their pension away and watch how quickly the republicans and democrats both unite to protect their money.
     
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    We already see unity when neither party takes action to stop their automatic pay raises or to do anything meaningful about the pork spending.
     
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    The Republicans and Democrats only differ on where they want to spend your money.
     

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