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This is change?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by carpro, Nov 21, 2008.

  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    Or politics as usual.

    No real change at all.

    Same for "unity". Appointing a pitbull like Emmanual who likes down and dirty and in your face politics says clearly that "unity" is not what Obama has in mind.
     
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    Have you considered that Emmanual's job is to ensure unity on the team that makes up the administration?
     
  3. dragonfly

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    I will second Crabtownboy's post.

    Since the economy did so much better under Clinton than it did under Reagan, Bush I or has done under Bush II, I welcome the changes Obama is making. Looks like he is changing from a failed administration to a successful one!
     
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    This is NOT change, Brother....it is De-ja-vu, and the return of the Twi-light Zone!

    You are so correct, sir! People are once again being hosed off "big time". The Obama slogan, "Change We Can Believe In" was another lie, and nearly 53% of the public bought into it because they thought there;d be a check in the mail in 2009 [another empty promise].

    The only thing I can believe in at this point in time is that we are about to experience a major dose of political de-ja-vu.......
     
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  5. dragonfly

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    What could President-elect Obama do that would signal change in your opinion.

    As pointed out in another posting; if Obama picked new people he would be accused of picking people with no experience, now that he picks democrats with experience he is accused of not bringing the promised change.

    I believe it's more of a case of disappointed republicans criticizing him regardless of what he does or doesn't do.
     
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    You Could be Right

    Don't ruin my moment....I spent 8 years hearing people run down and bash my POYUSA. It's now my turn to to bash every little thing Barrack does. :BangHead:
     
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    Sarah Palin:laugh: :laugh:



    The only reason Clinton had a budget surplus was because the Republican Congress acted like Republicans and forced it on him.:BangHead: :BangHead:
     
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    Reagan eliminated the Carter misery index, defeated the Soviet Union and started the longest peacetime expansion in history. Bush 41 followed up by seeing the fall of the berlin wall then made the mistake of trusting a democrat Congress. Bush 43 would not roll over and play dead when the dems tried to steal the election in Florida. Fortunately as president he has kept the country safe after 9/11, which was the result of Clinton being preoccupied with Monica and trying to understand what is is.:BangHead: Barack Hussein Obama is:confused:
     
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    I heard a couple of commentators on MSDNC (Otherwise known as MSNBC) even talk about how Obama's crop looks surprisingly familiar and a departure from his plan to be "outside" the beltway. If such a slanted organization as this is making this observation, you have to wonder.
     
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    The root cause of the present financial problems - that being the government arm twisting the banks to loan money to people who couldn't pay it back so that home ownership by various political groups could increase - is a direct product of the Democrats with Clinton being chief among the most recent ones. He did our economy no favors at all! Those that came after him inherited his mess and now we're all paying for it - twice actually. We're now going to make good on the bad loans whilst we take a personal beating on our failed investments and lost jobs. We owe Clinton no thanks what so ever for his lack of effective "leadership" in economic matters. If it hadn't been for Republicans he'd have robbed us even more.
     
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    These politicians all talk about the "common man", the "ordinary citizen", the "average American", the "working class", the "poor", etc., etc. but it's nothing but talk. The only people they really know are the government insiders because that's what they do and who they're surrounded by every day of their lives. They don't know anything about the "average American" - what they think, what they want, what they're sick and tired of, etc. Instead the attention goes to all the special little groups - the abortion activists, the homosexuals, the race mongers, the profit haters, the wealth envy group, the Darwin followers, etc. - that want something for nothing that belongs to someone else and likes the idea of using the government to get it for them. They're all rotten to the core - both those that ask for and those that promise it. They'll sell their freedom and ours to boot. They are specialists in buying and selling pork. We - those real average Americans - pay the bills and they keep digging for more.
     
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    I totally agree. I now have hope that our nation might once again become a shining example to the rest of the world.
     
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    Our nation has always been a shining example to the rest of the world. That's one reason people coming here.
     
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    Reagan was almost a total failure as president.

    BTW, Reagan did nothing to stop the USSR except be president at the time their economic system crashed. This is just another Reagan lie that has survived his horrible presidency.
     
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    No. No is aid what I meant.
     
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    Too soon to write that history. The facts are not totally known. Reagan did some, but Pope John Paul II did more with his work against the Communists in Poland and other places. Do you remember the meeting between Reagan and the Pope ... what was agreed to?

    Reagan almost bankrupted the US, and Bush has succeeded in doing so.
     
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    I would think that if it was to soon to write the history of Reagan's legacy then it would also be to soon to write that of Bush. Bush overspent on entitlement programs and supported illegal immigration which has cost this country billions of unnecessary funds. But the cause of the recent crash is the sub prime loans that the dems fought against regulating.
     
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    That is not the only cause. It is simply one of the causes and it began long before 2006 when the Republicians lost control of the House and Senate. There is blame to go all around ... but the Republicians did control the House and Senate 10 out of the last 12 years and 7 out of the last 10 presidents.

    All recessions from the Great Depression until now have happened under Republician presidents.
     
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