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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Dec 22, 2007.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    What you have is a stronger desire to impose your will on the whole nation. I will oppose you every step of the way and attempt to prevent you from doing so.

    If you want to fight in the political realm that's fine by me. Bring it on!

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    Hey, I gotta go brother. God Bless you and Merry Christmas to you!

    :godisgood:
     
  3. KenH

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    Merry Christmas to you and yours as well, steaver. :)
     
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    While I may agree with you in principle, reality is something else entirely.

    Decades of Supreme Court decisions have taken us down another path.

    There is no turning back.

    That's another reason Ron Paul stands no chance. Even if elected, he would be unable to turn back the clock...or undo Court decisions.
     
  5. KenH

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    This is the beginning of a new limited government movement, carpro. It doesn't end with the Ron Paul campaign any more than Goldwater's crushing defeat in 1964 ended the limited government movement of that generation. We aren't going away.
     
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    You understand me wrong brother. I have no desire to change this country's ways by imposing my will or the word of God on folks.

    I am here to apply God's word to the Christian's life in politics. Many Christians want to check the Holy Bible at the door. They want to seperate their life with Christ when they enter the polling booth.

    I am a simple preacher. You may disagree, but in the end, if my biblical applications are found worthy, one cannot say "I was not told Lord".

    God Bless! :thumbs:
     
  7. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    I am glad to hear that. :thumbs:
     
  8. Bro. Curtis

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    I must be on a lot of folk's ignore lists, 'cuz I thought I brought up several excellent points, and nobody even tried. Oh well.
     
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    Hello Bro Curtis,

    Some people find it hard to answer when the questions are so pointed and accurate. I look forward to people attempting to answer you..

    Merry Chrismas to you and yours!!

    Jamie
     
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    Thanx, Jamie. I pray your's will be safe & happy. I know you guys have been getting a lot of snow over there.
     
  11. KenH

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    Your points were excellent, Brother Curtis. :thumbs:
     
  12. steaver

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    Your questions are very much debatable. But at the end of the day, no consensus could ever be reached. Only opinions as to what God thinks of it. In reality, your questions have no absolute answers. God only knows.

    One day the USA just might go against Israel (God knows). I pray I am not here to see God's wrath poured out on this country if it should happen.

    God Bless! :thumbs:
     
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    In matters of state, yes. A person is still free to hold themselves to a different standard if they so choose, but the American government looks to the Constitution, not the bible as its authority.

    BTW, sorry, God didn't found the Constitution, men did.
     
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    Anyone has the free will to cut God out of their decisions, this isn't the point I make. I speak of what God's Word says to do.

    So God is just watching us and waiting to see what we do?

    God Bless! :thumbs:
     
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    You seem awfully judgemental over an issue you say there are no answers to......

    Cutting out the foreign aid to them and their enemies does not equal going against them. I see it as freeing them.

    How do you suppose it will compare to the wrath God has shown Israel, in the past ? Or the wrath he has promised the entire world ?
     
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    Asking questions is not passing judgment. We first ask questions so we may make rightful judgments.

    So by cutting off monetary support at this time in history for Israel would be blessing Israel?

    God's wrath to Israel in the past is a good indicator of what He could do to the USA. However, He probably withholds His wrath right now over the slaughter of innocent babies for the sake of the elect right now.

    The wrath He has promissed the entire world in the end, the scripture says, will be like nothing as of yet seen.

    God Bless! :thumbs:
     
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    Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

    God Bless! :thumbs:
     
  18. Bro. Curtis

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    Anyone can see your questions are very judgemental. Accusational, even.



    I said cut off aid to them and their enemies. Don't chop off half my statement. Be honest.

    Yes, unrestraining them would be a blessing to them.


    I think God would rather have us give Israel the freedom to defend herself, the opposite of the Bush/Rice doctrine.

    You got that right. I know I won't have to answer for electing another U.N. toadie.
     
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    Now that is a judgment! :wavey: And you even included everyone else's opinion with yours.

    You have every right to your opinion.

    Sorry, so your are not for only cutting aid for Israel, unless we also cut off aid for all of them at once?

    I don't think the same as you. I think if God would rather we cut Israel loose then that is what He would have us do. Looks like God is content to have us restrain them right now. You see, I view everything from a biblical perspective. God is ultimately in control of world events. I am amazed at how He carries these things out and can see the time of the end spoken of in scripture coming soon!

    God Bless! :thumbs:
     
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    You have not attempted to answer any of my questions. Also, I think you are trying to twist my words around, but on that I could be wrong, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.


    What I won't do is repeat my positions over and over. I have made myself clear.
     
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