This will make you sick....

Discussion in '2007 Archive' started by LadyEagle, Jun 18, 2007.

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  1. LadyEagle

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    Oh how heartbreaking!
     
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    It's too bad we didn't pull out yet. This could have continued without our knowledge and the cut and run folks could have been satisfied that "at least it's not Americans." Because the cut and run folks didn't get their way, now these young boys will have a chance at life. And it's a shame ...
     
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    As we now know we should never have gone in.
     
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    Yes indeed ... so countless thousands could suffer like those little boys and our consciences could rest in comfortable ignorance of it.

    It never ceases to amaze me how "pro life" really isn't, particularly when it's the lives of people in other countries. I guess God only wanted us to concerned about the unborn babies in America, not the already born babies in Iraq.
     
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    Or you might consider the use of taxpayer dollars(plus all the money our government is borrowing from China to fund Bush's Folly in Iraq) and the use of U.S. military personnel and assets by our government that has made Iraq a worse mess than it was when Saddam Hussein ran the place. Our government has forced the Iraqi people to trade living under tyranny for living under terrorism.

    As great as our troops are they can't overcome the bad policy of our federal government. I hope our troops can forgive us as citizens and as voters one day for allowing this to happen since March 2003.
     
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    Ken, you should really read the article. You're posting out of turn on this one.

    Each and every one of those troops, on that day, knew exactly why they were over there.
     
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    Our troops are over there to break things and kill our enemies, not to do social work. If they happen to do some good deeds along the way while breaking things and killing our enemies - fine. But that is not why our military exists.

    Social work is for individuals and private charities to handle, not the government through the use of money taken from its citizens by force.
     
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    It's kinda funny....

    ....when I read this story, politics did not come to my mind. This link did not bring about anti-war, anti-GWB sentiments. It didn't make me want to talk about who's right and who's wrong. The story never once made me feel like debating anything at all.

    I have definite opinions about all of the above, but my opinions on these matters right now don't count for much.

    I'm sitting in a comfortable computer chair in a $140,000 house that's paid for. The temperature is a nice 78 degrees. I've had enough to eat today. I've shared time with my family - we laughed alot today. I have clean clothes, a steady income, and in a little while I will lie down on a nice soft bed.

    These children in this link have suffered indignities that you and I will never know. Their minds and pysches will be permantly altered because of this torment.

    We, in our safe cocoon, haven't earned the right to debate in this thread whether those soldiers should have been there or not on this particular day.

    Take the war debate to another thread.....any other thread. This one is about those little children and thousands just like them around the world.

    May we ALL be used of God to rescue the perishing....both spiritually and physically whereever life takes us.
     
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    You are simply incorrect. America did not make Iraq a worse place. Only terrorism has done that. And our government did not force people to trade tyranny for terrorism. The terrorists did that. You are giving more evidence that you do not think clearly. You are blaming the wrong people because of your dislike for Bush. That's not a good idea. Put the blame where it lies.


    For all your claim to be a constitutionalist, you show us that you are not one through statements like this. The voters have no say in this matter. Military issues are not run by campaigns and voting booths. Our founders had enough sense to know that one day, people like you would come along who would change their opinion with the weather and they knew that fickleness was not a good way to run government.
     
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    Re the OP - oh, dear God! There's absolutely no political dog I have in this fight for once: I'm posting as a dad and I weep for these kids and thank God that they've been rescued from these appalling conditions and for the Americans and Iraqis who brought that about.:praying: for all
     
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    1) Oh? And just how many al Qaeda members were in Iraq and suicide bombings took place in Iraq before March 2003? Answer: Nil.

    2) Oh? Who told President Bush that they would sit by and allow President Bush to decide whether to invade Iraq? Answer: Congress.

    And who places the members of Congress in their position of power to do the above? Answer: Voters. This is a republic.
     
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    Please read what Scarlett and Matt are saying and think about these poor kids!

    Forget politics for just one second and think about the atrocities these poor kids have suffered! and not just these kids. These were just some of the poor kids discovered. Heaven help us when we cannot see the faces of human beings and have to turn every event into fight over who is right and who is wrong politically! I DON'T CARE! Politics will fix nothing.

    Now go look at those pictures. Look at those poor crumpled bodies. Weep over them. Get mad that someone is selling their clothing. Get angry that someone is eating the food that is in the building for them. Our being there or not has nothing to do with this. Please take your angst about the democrats and the republicans to another thread.
     
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    Look at those comments that are on that page. Wow, it is amazing how so many are twisting it around and coming back and blaming Bush for all of this...

    And Ken, while our main goal is to fight and win for America and it's interests, we also have a huge humanitarian mission. I have been deployed many times for months strictly to help people starving around the world. And the military is always busy around any natural disaster that occurs.
     
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    Right on, AF Guy!! :thumbs:

    Yeah, guys, Scarlett and Bitsy are right, if nothing else, just for a moment, let's all trade places with those little children!

    Let's see, now who was it that said, "For I was an hungered, and you gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in in prison, and ye came unto me"??

    Oh yes, it was the same One who said that who also said, "Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

    Now, what is that Person's name who said those things?
     
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    :jesus: (That's my final answer, Regis!)
     
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    The only thing I have seen that is more horrific than the story itself is the politicization of it here on this thread.
     
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    Every bad thing on earth is Chimpy McHalliburton's fault.

    There are a lot of reasons to criticize Bush, but this ain't one of them. I still support the war in Iraq. Bush hatred causes people to hallucinate.
     
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    Two thoughts for ya'll to consider...
    • News / Current Events is listed under "Christian DEBATE Forums".
    • "War is an extension of politics by other means." - Carl von Clausewitz

    If the above premises are true, then it is valid for a "Christian DEBATE" to break out in the News / Current Events section and it is valid for this humanitarian story about war to break into a discussion about politics.

    For me, I stopped believing these military/corporate media, tug at the heart stories after the Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch fairy tales were exposed. There has been no action taken by congress or the military to ensure they will stop fabricating stories about these human interest events/non-events. Thus, there is no cause to believe that this story is anything more than gov't propaganda intending to keep the final 30% of America (and a disproportionate number of Baptists) to continue to apologize for this heinous Use of Military Force. Finally, if the story is true, has anyone considered why these children were orphans? Any chance their parents were part of the 600,000 that have been killed at the hands of their liberators?
     
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