those pesky pop-up ads

I currently use PopUp Killer (http://software.xfx.net/utilities/popupkiller/tsguide/index.html)

I downloaded another one for my mother-in-law from www.hotfiles.com (also known as www.download.com).

 

or you could download either mozilla or opera 6 and use them as you browser they have options to prevent pop up windows

 

(that's actually an even better idea! Thanks, InHim!)

 

Mozilla is great...except for a couple of things.

1. Plugin support is weak right now
2. The popup killer option works well except if you use things that open windows from code logic (for instance, I use Microsoft outlook web client for work. I can't use Mozilla to reply to email if I have this option selected...I just have to keep checking this option on and off. Annoying yes, but not too annoying).

That is it.

Things I like about Mozilla.

1. Totally free and Non-Microsoft
2. Tabbed viewing (Ctrl-T for new tab).
3. Skinning the browser.

In Christ,
jason

 

Tripod and other free webhosts have more than 1 pop-up ads now on each page.

Could one of you provide a link to Mozilla or Opera 6 for those who have no idea what you're talking about?

[ August 20, 2002, 01:45 PM: Message edited by: webmaster ]

 

Mozilla:
MAIN PAGE
http://www.mozilla.org/
DOWNLOAD PAGE
http://www.mozilla.org/releases/stable.html

Opera:
MAIN PAGE:
http://www.opera.com/
WINDOWS DOWNLOAD PAGE:
http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?platform=win&force=6.05

Jason

 

I want to echo the suggestion to use mozilla. I have used it since version .99 and it is great. You can kill pop-ups, you can right-click on a picture (banner add) and tell it not to show images from that server. I think it is much better that IE.

 

This site has some interesting browser stats:

http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/stat.htm

It is obvious that IE dominates the browser market (although I suppose that AOL stats are included in the IE numbers)

 

And the reason IE dominates the market?

Because it's already on your computer. Microsoft didn't have to charge for it because they basically had deals with the computer resellers; their software on the computers that were being sold.

Their software included Internet Explorer, and the average user just used what they had readily available.

Netscape, which originally started out WAY better than IE, couldn't get the same deal (hey, sell your computers with our browser loaded on it), and really had no other software to help offset the cost of the browser; so they did the only thing they could, and started charging for it. They've been trailing ever since, and are too far behind now for their return to "free" status to make any difference.

The ONLY contender is Linux, and it's too complicated for your average user.

 

Don, you're right on. I'm not a Microsoft fan either.

However, I think that most people upgraded the IE at least once (and I read that MS is considering for charging for upgrades). Also, while Netscape invented the browser and were WAY better in the beginning, when MS realized that this is the future, they dumped hundreds of programmers on IE development.

 

I decided to check the BB server stats and here is what I found (and it is more detailed than the site above).

Hits - Percent - Agent

2,720,401 - 51.25% - MS Internet Explorer v5
1,430,859 - 26.95% - MS Internet Explorer v6
257,571 - 4.85% - Netscape Navigator v4
199,951 - 3.77% - AOL's Browser v7
178,145 - 3.36% - AOL's Browser v6
100,236 - 1.89% - MS Internet Explorer v4
98,239 - 1.85% - AOL's Browser v5
90,492 - 1.70% - Spider/Robot
70,731 - 1.33% - Netscape Navigator v6
36,113 - 0.68% - Opera
33,787 - 0.64% - Other Agent
22,931 - 0.43% - AOL's Browser v4
22,221 - 0.42% - WebTV
15,737 - 0.30% - Netscape Navigator v3
14,365 - 0.27% - E-Mail Harvester
8,626 - 0.16% - Offline Browser
4,224 - 0.08% - Netscape Navigator v5
1,112 - 0.02% - MS Internet Explorer v3
929 - 0.02% - AOL's Browser v3
693 - 0.01% - Link Checker
340 - 0.01% - Lynx
307 - 0.01% - AOL's Browser v8
287 - 0.01% - OmniWeb
189 - 0.00% - NC Browser
32 - 0.00% - Download Manager
27 - 0.00% - iCab
17 - 0.00% - MS FrontPage
8 - 0.00% - Netscape Navigator v2
4 - 0.00% - StarOffice
3 - 0.00% - Netscape Navigator v1
1 - 0.00% - Net.Box

[ August 24, 2002, 02:27 AM: Message edited by: webmaster ]

 

Here is the BB's platform breakdown:

Hits - Percent - Platform

3,319,838 - 62.54% - Windows 98
1,005,038 - 18.93% - Windows 2000
370,954 - 6.99% - Windows 95
306,101 - 5.77% - Windows NT
90,492 - 1.70% - Spider/Robot
65,407 - 1.23% - MacOS (PowerPC)
50,941 - 0.96% - Unknown Platform
38,674 - 0.73% - Windows 95/98/NT (unspecified)
22,221 - 0.42% - WebTV
14,365 - 0.27% - E-Mail Harvester
8,626 - 0.16% - Offline Browser
7,608 - 0.14% - Linux
4,055 - 0.08% - Solaris
1,816 - 0.03% - Windows 3.1
693 - 0.01% - Link Checker
643 - 0.01% - Windows XP
350 - 0.01% - Unix/Linux (unspecified)
189 - 0.00% - RISC OS
124 - 0.00% - AIX
111 - 0.00% - OS/2
67 - 0.00% - Windows CE
43 - 0.00% - SCO
38 - 0.00% - SunOS
37 - 0.00% - FreeBSD
33 - 0.00% - MacOS (68K)
32 - 0.00% - Download Manager
30 - 0.00% - HP-UX
18 - 0.00% - EPOC
14 - 0.00% - IRIX
11 - 0.00% - NetBSD
9 - 0.00% - OSF/1

 

Where in Mozilla is the option? I can't find it.

 

I have mozilla version 1 - the option is in:

edit, preferences, scripts & windows

you uncheck the 'open unrequested windows' option.

This is not going to happen IE is part of the windows operating system, which is why you can only have one version of the browser installed on your machine (unless you are running multiple seperate windows installs on it).

IE is not really a software programme in the traditional sense - It is a collection of components that are reused across the microsoft platform (ie office developer 2000 requires IE5 to be installed). To remove IE from the operating system would be a large task (as MS testified in the court case against them).

Moreover, the widespread use of IE allows MS to push it's own proprietry standards - for example MS have a seperate XSLT specification. If businesses adopt these standards over the W3C standards it can only be a good thing for MS.

I can't see the business benefit to MS of charging for their browser, but I may, of course, be wrong

[ August 24, 2002, 07:45 AM: Message edited by: InHim2002 ]

 

Thanks!

 

As long as IE is part of Windows the initial version that comes with your computer will be free, all version upgrades, however, will cost $9.99 after that.

MS already charges corporate customers for IE upgrades.

 

I believe that the stats that you posted, webmaster, are cumulative since the site began in its current form. They do no necessarily represent the current trend among our visitors.

I also notice that XP only shows .01% on the platform breakdown despite its popularity since its inception.

There are a couple of polls that I moved onto this forum when the name changed to "Computer and website development." One is on OS's and the other on browsers. It may be interesting to duplicate them and compare to the results of the original polls which are a few months old.

Unfortunately, this forum may only attract those of us who embrace the term "geek" when applied to us. It would hardly be a random sampling.

 

You're right, Clint. The stats are cumulative since we moved to this server. One thing is very clear, though, that Microsoft has a monopolist position in the browser and O/S markets.