Thousands of Palestinians again celebrate attacks

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    On Friday and Saturday, thousands of Palestinians again paraded through cities in the West Bank and Gaza, celebrating the attacks on the United States. Some Palestinian policeman reportedly joined the celebrations, while other Palestinian security officials confiscated videotape shot by journalists at the rally.
    International news agencies continue to refrain from broadcasting video footage showing Palestinians, including members of Palestinian security forces, celebrating after this week's terrorist attacks in the United States due to severe threats and warnings issued by Palestinian Authority officials and representatives.

    The Associated Press (AP) filed an official complaint with the Palestinian Authority after a freelance cameraman who filmed Palestinians celebrating the terror was threatened.

    According to the AP, a videographer on assignment for Associated Press Television News, was "summoned to a Palestinian Authority security office and told that the material must not be aired."
    http://israelinsider.com/channels/diplomacy/articles/dip_0087.htm
     
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    A Reuters report filed in Beirut stated: "Jubilant Palestinians took to the streets of refugee camps of Lebanon and the West Bank, waving Palestinian flags and distributing sweets to celebrate the attacks on major U.S. landmarks and government offices."

    The same report noted: "In Nablus, motorists honked their horns and gunmen fired into the air from assault rifles to cheer on the attacks which unfolded in the space of a few hours and stunned people around the globe."

    The AP film that was not aired reportedly shows "Palestinian policemen celebrating and shooting into the air, in addition to civilians dancing," according to senior Israeli sources. The film was reportedly shot in Nablus, where more than 3,000 demonstrators took to the streets, and in the Balata refugee camp.

    Israel Television correspondent Oded Granot reported last night that Tanzim militiamen had kidnapped a Palestinian cameraman who shot a report for a major news agency showing Palestinians in Ramallah celebrating the attacks against the United States. This film reportedly includes footage of Palestinian Police firing their assault rifles in the air in celebration as hundreds cheer.
     
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    as Israel called off peace talks n launched air, sea, n land attacks on Palestinians living in the Gaza strip today, i wonder how Americans reacted to it--assuming that it was even reported.

    the toll over the last couple of days, if i'm not mistaken, was 2 Palestinians killed in 12 injured. prob nothing, compared to NYC alone.

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by webmaster:
    On Friday and Saturday, thousands of Palestinians again paraded through cities in the West Bank and Gaza, celebrating the attacks on the United States. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
     
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    I am already getting weary of the sympathy we Americans are all going out of our way to show the Muslim people. They seem not to be showing much sympathy for us.

    The facts are that the Muslim religion advocates violence against non-Muslims, advocates state control of religion, and advocates the execution of all who get in their way. If you do not believe that, try reading the book of Surah in the Qu'ran. You can get a copy of it in English. I do not know where, but have seen English copies. The allegiance of the Muslim lies first and foremost to his rigid belief system. I do not fault them for this, but I do fault them for their disobedience of their own book. Because the Qu'ran also states that they are not to live under the protection of non-Muslims or seek them as friends. We should realize that the Muslim faith is a danger to the American culture, no matter what the news media tells us.


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    well, there are Muslims, n there are Muslims. i'm told that Arafat himself's married to a Muslim n that Muslim marriage to Christians used to be allowed.

    but back to the point, what wld drive an formerly idyllic people in Palestine to become violent n suicidal? i don't think the answer all lies in the extremist brand of their religion. that's certainly a contributing factor. but cld it be the foreign policy of stronger nations that have aggravated their sense of oppression n hopelessness?

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    Because the Qu'ran also states that they are not to live under the protection of non-Muslims or seek them as friends. We should realize that the Muslim faith is a danger to the American culture, no matter what the news media tells us.


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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Forever settled in heaven:
    as Israel called off peace talks n launched air, sea, n land attacks on Palestinians living in the Gaza strip today, i wonder how Americans reacted to it--assuming that it was even reported.

    the toll over the last couple of days, if i'm not mistaken, was 2 Palestinians killed in 12 injured. prob nothing, compared to NYC alone.

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    Well,

    Now that I know this little bit of information, I think I will go celebrate with a steak dinner. If you think I feel sorry for the Palestinians, you're wrong.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Forever settled in heaven:
    but back to the point, what wld drive an formerly idyllic people in Palestine to become violent n suicidal? i don't think the answer all lies in the extremist brand of their religion. that's certainly a contributing factor. but cld it be the foreign policy of stronger nations that have aggravated their sense of oppression n hopelessness?

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    I believe that there is one thing and one thing only behind it...they have allowed themselves to be decieved into following a wicked, evil man. A man who would launch a "surprise attack" and take the life of thousands and thousands of innocent people. Now of course, we need to keep in mind...this same man, well, he's the one that trains/orders these things to happen while he's snuggly tucked away in hiding. Kind of convienient for him. I'll bet he wouldn't put his life on the line...he can convince his "soldiers" to do it sure, but I'll bet he wouldn't be willing to make that sacrifice himself!
     
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Joseph Botwinick:


    Well,

    Now that I know this little bit of information, I think I will go celebrate with a steak dinner. If you think I feel sorry for the Palestinians, you're wrong.

    Joseph Botwinick
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    Okay folks, are we strong enough to stand up as Christians and do what Jesus would do? Can we take his direct commandment from Matthew and love our enemy. According to Paul, it is GOVERNMENT'S responsibility to make judgement for evil and if war is their decision then we are to support it. If the death penalty is their decision we are to support it. BUT, as individuals, we are Christians (are we not?) and we are to hate sin as God does, but love not only our neighbors, but love our enemies, too. How strong are we to be like Christ in this situation?
     
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    will the steak go down better if u knew that there are many Christian brothers n sisters among the Palestinians?

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Joseph Botwinick:
    Now that I know this little bit of information, I think I will go celebrate with a steak dinner. If you think I feel sorry for the Palestinians, you're wrong.

    Joseph Botwinick
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    They need to be smart enough to get out of there...If you think I am going to sit at home crying over the death of a bunch of terrorists who celebrate at the murder of innocent people you are wrong...But to answer your question more directly...I like A-1 sauce on my steak which will make it taste better.

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    The Palestinian people, by and large, are not terrorists. They are a very impoverished group of people who have been cut off from any form of self government, or democratic government and feel trapped, without friends and without resources. Americans are largely ignorant of their plight, and Christians are generally unsympathetic because of a general lack of historical knowledge and a support for an Israeli government that is still tied to guilt from not doing enough during the holocaust.

    Why don't the Christians among them get out of there? Well, where would they go? This has been their homeland for 2000 years. Besides, most of them do not have the financial resources to have running water, much less relocate elswhere on the globe.

    Their extremely limited view of world events, which includes further skewing by some of their leaders and censorship of their ability to see everything (caused by the Israeli government) has caused them to view the United States as the financier of the Israeli state that persecutes and oppresses them by taking their land, confining them to limited space in their own communities and murdering their children. So when we get hit by a terrorist, they believe it is the beginning of their freedom.

    I seriously doubt whether Palestinians were involved in the attack. They don't have the means. Their oppression is real, but the terrorists only use them as pawns in the game. They are unfortunate people whose limited understanding of events relates only to their day to day existence in misery and they have been led to believe that we are partly responsible for that misery. So, they are celebrating what they believe might be the beginning of the end of their misery.

    I've never understood why the terrorist groups who claim their legitimacy comes from the oppression of the Palestinian people by Israel do not go one step further to help their brethren out with financial assistance. It would be very easy for a third party to administer humanitarian aid paid for by Arab money in such a way that the funds would only be used for such, and not to buy arms to attack Israel.

    At any rate, regardless of what they do, doesn't the Bible tell us to love our enemy and pray for those who persecute us? Or have we found some other context in which we can dismiss those teachings in favor of our rules-oriented, man-opinionated, "we are always right--you are always wrong" world view?
     
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    n there are Israelis that don't necessarily agree that hostility towards Palestinians is the only or even the best way forward:
    http://www.peacenow.org/nia/briefs/qa2.html

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ellis:
    ... and Christians are generally unsympathetic because of a general lack of historical knowledge and a support for an Israeli government that is still tied to guilt from not doing enough during the holocaust. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
     

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