Throwing Stones

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  1. Gershom

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    The following quote is from the News / Current Events forum.

    The thread: "We don't need "Idols" like this..."

    I've posted the quote here so that all may give their thoughts and not only Baptists or IFB's.

    What has your experience been with the Independent Fundamental Baptist "crowd" (a term they like to use when pointing at others) and why do you think they would have responded differently to the thread, perhaps siding with the original poster in throwing stones without knowledge?
     
  2. dianetavegia

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    I've not read anything on that thread other than the O.P. about the young man's drug arrest. I didn't follow the link to Smoking Gun either.

    My true opinion, and I'm a Southern Baptist (non-Calvinist, OSAS) and not IFB, is that we should be very careful whom we allow to be called 'idols or role models' for our children or ourselves.

    I've only seen minutes of this show while flicking the channel but saw the write ups about the young single mom who won over the Atlanta girl, because of where we live. [​IMG]

    In my personal opinion, no one with any prior arrests should be allowed to be a contestant on a show that is supposed to be finding the 'American Idol'. I would go so far as to reject those who had posed for pornographic photos, acted in nasty movies, worked in places that included strippers, etc.

    If they want to include such people, call it Star Search because most of our 'Hollywood stars' are not those I'd admire or emulate.

    Diane
     
  3. StefanM

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    The main question at hand is whether "idol" is synonymous with "role model." I contend that it is not. Fox's intention is to find the best performer, not to provide an example for an after-school special.

    I think if someone is looking to performers for his/her role models, perhaps he/she needs to reevaluate his perspective.
     
  4. dianetavegia

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    i·dol (īd'l)
    n.

    An image used as an object of worship.
    A false god.
    One that is adored, often blindly or excessively.
    Something visible but without substance.


    Then they've chosen the wrong word, StefanM. Just because someone can sing, dance, juggle, rap or whatever does NOT mean they are someone we should emulate, i.e. idolize.
     
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    I would agree with you wholeheartedly! But if you have seen many Fox shows, you'll know that the words that they use probably aren't the best-chosen words ;) .

    Nevertheless, even though we may not want to emulate every aspect of their lives, I wouldn't mind being able to emulate some of their singing talents. I'm sure Sunday morning songs would sound a lot better at my church if that were the case!

    Again, I think it goes back to the intentions of the show. The show was never intended to provide models for living your life. Could they have used a better term than "idol"? Definitely, but I think the intention was solely about performing. I bet if we knew everything in the past of these performers we'd all find something that isn't role-model material.

    Goodness, if you look at any of US, there is probably something in our past that isn't role-model material! (I definitely know I've done things I'm not proud of!)

    If he were promoting the use of drugs on the air, then yank him! But if he isn't...does it really matter what he did in his past?

    If the argument is that he is not acting like a good Christian, it may be valid, but should we expect the lost (including him if he is not saved) in this world to act as if they were saved?

    Christians shouldn't look for life-examples from American Idol anyway--we have a great one, and a great description of him is in Philippians 2. :D
     
  6. dianetavegia

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    Well said!
     
  7. Gershom

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    What about the questions in the OP?
     
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    [​IMG]

    How 'bout we leave Bo alone!! Where I come from, we have people that probably did worse things than he. But we give them the benifit of the doubt, and if they get saved, then we believe that they are made a new creature, old thigs are passed away and all things have become new!! :D

    He may be saved, or he may not, but I don't see him doing drugs on air, and if he told "Idol" before about his past then lets not judge him.

    Are we T.V. critics or Christians??

    Peace,

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    Things to remember next time you feel like a worthless sinner and God can't use you:

    Noah was a drunk, Abraham was too old, Isaac was a day-dreamer, Jacob was a liar, Leah was ugly, Joseph was abused, Moses had a stuttering problem, Gideon was a coward, Sampson had long hair and was a womanizer, Rahab was a prostitute, Jeremiah and Timothy were too young, David had an affair and was a murderer, Elijah was suicidal, Isaiah preached naked, Jonah ran from God, Naomi was a widow, Job went bankrupt, John the Baptist ate locusts, Peter denied Christ, the apostles fell asleep while praying, Martha worried about everything, the Samaritan woman was divorced more than once, Zaccheus was too small, Paul was a fanatic, Timothy had an ulcer...and Lazarus was dead! ...no more excuses now. God can use you to your full potential. Besides you aren't the message, you are just the messenger.
     
  10. Gershom

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    Why do you think IFB's would have responded differently? Is it his looks? His past? What?
     
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    Looks, past, the fact that he's on the show, the fact that he's not in church, etc.
     

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