Tithe

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Berean, Apr 29, 2015.

  1. Berean

    Berean
    Expand Collapse
    Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2006
    Messages:
    817
    Likes Received:
    1
    Is the tithe applicable in the NT Church. I support my church the same way I support The United Way because I think it is the right thing to do, but is there a legal tithe. Please give me the NT Scripture reference with your answer.
     
  2. webdog

    webdog
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2005
    Messages:
    24,691
    Likes Received:
    0
    There is no NT support for the tithe.
     
  3. Rolfe

    Rolfe
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2014
    Messages:
    5,294
    Likes Received:
    391
    I am curious about the choice of the United Way.
     
  4. tyndale1946

    tyndale1946
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2001
    Messages:
    6,179
    Likes Received:
    226

    II Corinthians 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

    I remember growing up in the church... There were six in our family and money was tight... My Dad didn't have much to give as far as money but he did give his time. He always made sure that the church was clean for other members. Inside and out that was his job and he enjoyed serving his Lord and brothers and sisters in this manner. When he passed on 19 years ago the pastors wife told me your Dad was the serving angel of our church!... Yes the Lord does love a cheerful giver!... Brother Glen
     
  5. Berean

    Berean
    Expand Collapse
    Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2006
    Messages:
    817
    Likes Received:
    1
    The UW is a once a year fund raiser designed to help non profit organizations Girls/Boys Clubs, local charities, Senior Citizens and many other local organizations.
     
  6. JonC

    JonC
    Expand Collapse
    Lifelong Disciple
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2001
    Messages:
    6,927
    Likes Received:
    367
    I do not believe the tithe is for the New Testament Church. Instead I believe that it signified a deeper submission that is realized in the Church. As a child of God, everything we are and own belongs to God and is to be surrendered for His service. We should give sacrificially….probably much more than 10%. I think it also shows trust in God’s provision.

    That said, Revmitchell made a good point on a previous discussion that the tithe pre-dated the Law.
     
  7. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    38,292
    Likes Received:
    782
    Giving a tithe as in an exact amount of 10% can be argued that there is no support for in the NT. However, not giving to the church is not an option for the faithful Christian as has been established in a previous post. The church is the first place we should give. If we can only afford to give to one place the church should be the place for obedient Christians.
     
  8. fourwedge

    fourwedge
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2015
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    My wife and I tithe at least 10%of every dollar. It's all God's and I think he has taught me to not be selfish by teaching to support our church. Our church does more good then I ever could alone.

    As far as new testament scripture. Don't know of any. But we still follow the OT teachings in other areas like the 10 commandments. Why not in the area of giving too?

    Since we have begun to tithe and had faith that the Lord would provide for us.... He has, and bountifully.
     
  9. Alcott

    Alcott
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2002
    Messages:
    7,454
    Likes Received:
    93
    Do you follow them "in other areas" such as stoning a man for gathering firewood on the sabbath?

    What do you mean by that? That 90% of your gross income was adequate, or more than adequate? That you stopped purchasing certain items when you resolved to tithe? That you 'began' to tithe after you got a raise and/or promotion? ... what?
     
  10. Rolfe

    Rolfe
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2014
    Messages:
    5,294
    Likes Received:
    391
    Have you considered giving to these individual charities directly to avoid the overhead that United Way would deduct?
     
  11. PreachTony

    PreachTony
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2014
    Messages:
    1,910
    Likes Received:
    0
    I know of no NT scripture that supports a continued tithe. If anything, the NT offers up scriptural support for offerings made of your own free will.

     
  12. annsni

    annsni
    Expand Collapse
    Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Messages:
    20,159
    Likes Received:
    368
    We do tithe out of our desire and the fact that the 10% is an easy number to figure out when giving. We additionally give to carefully selected organizations that are responsible with their money and do not support things that we believe are sin. This includes Compassion (we support a little girl Erika in Ghana and I'm a Compassion Advocate as well), our local crisis pregnancy center, a local mission organization that feeds 3000 people a week and gives them the Gospel of Jesus Christ daily and First Response Team of America which is an organization started by a young man that I used to babysit for who goes in to help in natural disasters with large equipment to clear roads, debris and run power for hospitals and shelters. We will also give to special requests from our missionaries and friends for missions trips.
     
  13. JonC

    JonC
    Expand Collapse
    Lifelong Disciple
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2001
    Messages:
    6,927
    Likes Received:
    367
    One reason that I do not like the term “tithe” is that it instills 10%. I don’t think people should look at giving as “I make $100 so $10 belongs to God.” Instead they should look at giving as sacrificial. God demands much more than 10%.

    My problem is giving when I truly believe the church is not good stewards of what it receives. I give, but I sometimes find it difficult to maintain the right attitude in giving.
     
  14. HankD

    HankD
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2001
    Messages:
    15,126
    Likes Received:
    320
    No, a NT tithe is not required.

    However it is not forbidden either.

    HankD
     
  15. InTheLight

    InTheLight
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Messages:
    16,189
    Likes Received:
    611
    Great answer, Rev.
     
  16. fourwedge

    fourwedge
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2015
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    What do I mean by tithe? I guess I assumed it was common knowledge that the tithe is the first 10% of your income.

    No we don't stone anyone(duh).

    My wife and I live off of 46% of what we make. We invest 44% for the future and tithe 10% to our local church. So 46% of what we make is adequate and in some cases more then adequate....for living expenses on average. Yes we no longer purchase everything we want. We began to tithe to support our church and its ministries/missions. No we didn't wait for a raise. We get one of those most years and God has been very good to us. Why wait to give back 10% of what is all his anyway?

    Hope that answers all your questions about tithing and stoning people?
     
    #16 fourwedge, Apr 30, 2015
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 30, 2015
  17. Salty

    Salty
    Expand Collapse
    20,000 Posts Club
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    22,086
    Likes Received:
    218
    It means you are REQUIRED.

    The NT does NOT require you to tithe.
    In fact, if you can afford to give MORE than 10% you should.
     
  18. fourwedge

    fourwedge
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2015
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yes, I require myself to give. Everyone can afford to give more. It is just that you have to prioritize your expenses. Everyone can stop replacing clothing. Everyone can buy less expensive food. Everyone can walk everywhere they go.

    I don't believe that God requires that we give up everything we have... I don't believe that is the wisest way to live your lives either. If you give everything, you will never have anymore to give. If you are a good steward and grow what you are blessed with then you can give more for quite some time.
     
  19. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    16,609
    Likes Received:
    157
    Nor is there any NT teaching negating the OT tithe.
     
  20. fourwedge

    fourwedge
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2015
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    This isn't specific to 10% but I look to it as a good reason to give.

    A passage that I look to for giving advice in the NT is:

    1 John 3:17 But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?
     

Share This Page

Loading...