I started this thread because we were going off-topic on the Underrated versions thread . So , DeclareHim and others -- feel free to have at it . Start listing some negatve things about particular verses in this version . Declarehim was honest to admit that he does not own TNIV ( Today's New international Version ) . Anyone posting should acknowledge the same if that is the case . Please , let's just keep it on-target with your objections to the renderings of particular verses . Anything else will be out-of-bounds . I suppose it would be too much to ask you not to simply copy mountains of material from the anti-TNIV websites . I want the posts to be more specific and to consist of your own ideas -- not Grudem sound-alikes . Besides posts that are just lengthy rehashes really aren't that good . Let's deal in more bite-size portions , shall we ? So we can begin with cons . If anyone has a voice of sympathy for TNIV , that would also be welcomed .