Today's COPS Incident

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  1. InTheLight

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    Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?

     
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    I figured this would end up here eventually. I also know exactly how it is going to play out.
     
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    The cop got a little rough, but the girl had been told to leave the classroom by the teacher. She refused. That is criminal trespass. The school administrator than told her to leave school property. She refused. That is a second count of criminal trespass. Her refusal to follow the lawful instruction of the school police officer resulted in an altercation that not only removed her from the classroom but also disrupted the education of every other student in the class room. Third charge: disruption of a school.

    The cop was just a little heavy handed but she got just what she asked for.
     
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    Yep, there will be the "she deserved it" camp and "nice takedown, beautiful style points", or "they're just doing what they're trained to do" and then there will be the "Why does a grown man have to beat up a teenaged girl?"

    The sad thing is that someone can post one of these incidents almost every day. I've already reached my tipping point. The cops are just too darn quick to use force when other methods would work.
     
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    How is it criminal trespass if she is an enrolled student at the school? It's plain and simple insubordination. Why is it a crime?

    Go and get a dolly or a hand cart. Have the cop and the asst. principal pick up the kid and the desk and set the desk with her in it onto the cart. Wheel the cart out of the classroom. If the kid exits the desk, grab her and drag her out of the school. Is that so difficult?
     
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    Because the owner of the property, or the legal representative of the legal owner of the property asked her to leave. She didn't. That is the very definition of trespass.
    I agree. That is why I said he got a little heavy handed. There were better ways to handle it. But she was still in the wrong. Had she done as she was told by the teacher, the administration, and the cop, all who issued lawful orders, none of this would have happened. She has nobody to blame but herself.
     
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    The cop has been sued three times previously. Once for battery (lawsuit dismissed), once for excessive use of force and battery (he won the lawsuit) and once for racial bias (trial pending in January.)
     
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    They didn't accuse her of trespassing, they accused her of "disturbing school."

    So, the cop's treatment of her was wrong, but still, she got what she deserved. Is that your stance?
     
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    Read the article. She was told to leave the classroom. She refused. She was told to leave the school. She refused.
    He was too heavy handed and she got what she deserved.
     
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    I thought someone would post this. The cop should be fired and the teacher right along with him. There should be a lawsuit against the administration and the school system.

    This is one of those textbook things that you DO NOT do.

    The administration should know, that before you get a resource officer involved, that you call mama and daddy or whomever the guardian is. There are so many OTHER layers(Principal, counselors,etc.) that a teacher is supposed to go through before getting a resource officer involved.

    I'm embarassed for the cop, the school and anybody associated with this.

    but this is part of the training gone crazy that we were talking about. Rather than try to de-escalate a situation, today's cops come in thinking that their badges allow them to treat people any kind of way.

    Notrial. Just write the family a large check and call it a day.
     
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    Tag this as #4. He'll swiftly be fired if they've got dog sense.
     
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    What you do is comply with the officer. He did what was necessary. If anyone thinks that situation was not a set up to gain a video then then I have some magic beans to sell you as well.
     
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    Yes, it's a conspiracy...sheesh.

    "She really hadn't done anything wrong," Robinson said. "She said that she had took her phone out, but it was only for a quick second."

    While she didn't comply, Robinson said the girl was apologetic.

    Then Fields, was called to the class. Robinson said when Fields came in, he asked Robinson's friend to move a desk. According to the student, Fields then shut the girl's computer, and moved it to another desk.

    Robinson felt something was wrong, and pulled out his phone and began recording.

    "When I saw what was about to happen my immediate first thing to think is let me get this on camera. This is going to be something that not only I'm going to be like 'wow did this really happened at my class,' but just something that everybody else needs to see. This is something that we can't let this just pass by."


    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/10/27/sc-deputy-classroom-video/74668562/
     
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    That's stupid. this is the reason cops have the reputations they currently do. How is it necessary to put your arm around somebody's neck, throw her across the floor, and then drag her? You are a sick individual if you think that was necessary for a child who wasn't breaking any laws, was not being threatening , or violent.

    The officer should have already been fired considering past history, and the only reason he probably hasn't been is because of the union.
     
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    I'd also like to know, in lieu of the Eric Garner case, what would move yet another officer to put his arms around someone's neck?
     
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    And THIS is where people's angst is coming from in large part. There's just no reason why a police officer should have been brought into this in the first place. And once he had been, there was no reason to treat the young girl as though she were holding someone at knifepoint. It's this type of treatment at the hands of cops that young and old black folks will tell you that they see all too often. And before the videos, no one believed it and would say "if they would just comply/cooperate". Now as this treatment starts to spread to the suburbs, people will start to take note.
     
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    OK, using the elapsed time indicator please point out where the girl kicked the officer in the video at the link provided. I can see her trying to punch the cop as she's being thrown backwards, but how does that change the fact that the cop was going ballistic on her to begin with and she reacts?
     
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    I don't know why this angle changes the story. She still hasn't done anything in this new angle that warrants that kind of treatment , IMO. And I still don't see her kicking or kicking at the officer.

    Is there a third angle that I'm missing because this "second angle changes story" sounds like a headline straight off Hannity.
     
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    I've watched the new angle as well and I don't see any kick. She flails around a little bit when he grabs her but that's it. Would she still have deserved it if she cracked her skull open or broken her neck on the floor? Goodness gracious people. A proportional response and maybe even finding a patient level headed solution should have carried the day. What she deserved was to be cited for her actions not rough handled. There are ways to properly secure someone. Does anybody here honestly think he was trained to upend her chair and toss her across the room. A lot of people sure enjoy watching the police hurt people.
     
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