Today's pastors are 'lip service' pastors

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  1. poncho

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    [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. -Matt.15:8[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]“Talk is cheap.” Heard regularly on athletic fields across America.

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    [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]I better warn you. You have walked in during one of my rants. You might be better off if you just turned and walked out the same way you entered.[/FONT]​
    [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Don’t let the door hit you on the way out…

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    [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]I am sick and tired of the Christian-weenies. The cowardice of the average American Christian male is disheartening.

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    [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]There is a difference you know…between a male and a man. The nation is peppered with Christian males, but you will look long and hard before you set your eyes on a Christian MAN. Male by birth, man by choice.

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    [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]We are in the mess we are in because of it…the lack of Christian men. The “war on women’ is all of the rage in the media during this election season. But a war on manhood has been going on for at least two-generations.

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    :laugh::laugh: I love this guy!
     
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    But...but...but....Poncho....Come on now....

    Isn't the R - E - A - L Burning Question all of us need to come to grips with:

    WWJOD? (What Would Joel Osteen Do?) :thumbs::thumbs::tear:
     
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    Talk about yer [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]"skinny-jean, moussed-haired, sissies". :rolleyes:

    He makes me [/FONT]nauseous.
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    But he's s - o - o - o good at givin' dem thar "smooth sayings"!!!

    (Wonder if some tooth whitener company has ever offered to pay him a ....shall we say..."Love offering"....if he'll endorse their product)?? :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    I don't about all that but he sure ain't an example of a manly man.

    He fits the definition of "metrosexual" to a tee. Makes my stomach turn just talking about him.
     
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    Hey, PONCHO, I TAKE OFFENSE TO WHAT YOU JUST POSTED!!!

    I've lived in METRO Nashville-Davidson County FOR YEARS (15+ if you MUST know!)

    I pay my property taxes to METRO!

    I vote for the person I wish to represent me in METRO!

    I pay my water/sewage to METRO!

    METRO (supposedly, anyway) fixes the streets where I live!!

    METRO contracts out to have my trash picked up on a weekly basis!!

    My neighbors' children attend METRO schools!!
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    (Oh, yeah, and if I'm ever caught driving like Sgt. Salty.........METRO gives me a ticket!!!........[Sorry, Bob, I just couldn't resist posting that!! :laugh:])
     
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    Okay then we'll just stick with [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]"skinny-jean, moussed-haired, sissies" would that be acceptable?[/FONT]
     
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    It's because liberalism with its twisted definitions of tolerance and love is drowning the Church.
     
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    True enough but it could never have happened without the pastor's consent. Evidently they haven't been man enough to stand up to it.

    [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]"They claim to “serve the Lord” yet they bow to every un-Godly authority that crosses their path." [/FONT]
     
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    That and the churches have been infiltrated by liberal goats who push the pastors at their bidding. I mean if they want to stay employed, they can't cross the "money people".

    It's a shame.
     
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    It's time we stop talking about biblical "manhood" and "womanhood." We should be more interested in biblical "personhood," not coming up with imaginary lists of things that men must be in order to earn the zipper in their pants.

    We all, men and women, are called to follow after God wholeheartedly. Stop suggesting we put on some act and start learning how to "do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with your God."
     
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    Jesus wore a garment you would call a dress. And he had long hair. Was he a sissy?

    Think about your words before you let them out. Are you making a salient point, or are you tired of men who don't look like you think they should look and trying to make a "biblical argument" out of it?
     
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    You should be careful not to get your theology from mid-evil paintings.
     
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    You're a little testy here. :laugh: I think the salient point is that a lot of those guys are all about looks and not substance.

    And he's saying MEN because that's where the problem starts...with the MEN in the home.
     
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    I'm really okay. Just trying to argue a point.

    Why does it start with men? Aren't women equally valuable? Men and women are both called to lead their homes and serve God wholeheartedly.
     
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    I know jaigner. Nice name by the way.

    It starts with the men because that's the order that God ordained. He placed the men at the head of the households. That's why in removing the men from families, you end up with all sorts of societal problems. The women have never been called of God to lead the home. They simply have to by default because a lot of the men are absent.

    All one has to do is look at the Black family and the percentage of kids born out of wedlock, and how that demographic has suffered because of the absence of fathers.

    The same thing is taking place in every demographic.

    So it's not that the women are less important. It's that God has designed for the men and women to work in a certain order to achieve His best.
     
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    I respectfully disagree. The whole thrust of Scripture points toward mutual submission in marriage and family. "Male headship" is a doctrine contrived by superimposing our context onto that of Scripture.

    What is important is that the families be led by two loving and present parents who model self-sacrifice and mutual submission.

    This "manning-up" stuff isn't found in the Bible, I'm afraid. Nor is it a sound idea. Men, and women alike, should be following hard after God and not concerning themselves with contorting into some cultural gender constructs.
     
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    Galatians 3:28
    There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

    Colossians 3:11
    Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

    This was written by the "real" Paul. It was the Neo-Paul writing after Paul's death who put woman "in their place."
     
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    jaigner, God has prescribed an order and it can be seen from the start of His word to the end.

    There is mutual submission to CHRIST. But the HUSBAND is the head. And if he is submitting to Christ, his Christ submitting wife shouldn't have any problem submitting to him.

    That order can be seen in the Garden of Eden. God didn't respond until after the HEAD of the household had disobeyed.

    That same order can be seen with Christ being called the Bridegroom and the Church being called His Bride. He's the head. his bride submits to Him.

    The same order can be seen with Abraham and his family.
    The same order can be seen with all of the patriarchs.

    Don't take this the wrong way. But there is always a level of pride involved when women don't want to submit to the husband as the head of the household.


    Nope. That's a nice worldly answer that yields worldly results. What is important is that God be obeyed and that the wife submit to her Christ submitting husband.

    That's a nice feminist bend, but it ain't Biblical. God has a reason for establishing the order as it is. It is prideful women who have helped destroy families because they don't think they should have to submit to their Christ submitting husbands.

    It is in that submission that God is honored and the Biblically correct example for kids is set.
     

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