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Discussion in 'Politics' started by Crabtownboy, Feb 6, 2010.
Who really was the governor of Alaska?
Kinda like how Hillary played an active role during Bill's presidency:sleep:
This is why CTB is hard for me to take seriously. His double standards and intellectual dishonesty stand out. (which is an accomplishment here!)
When inconsistencies or double standards are pointed out to him, he disappears from that thread. (He starts a new one instead on a different subject...one he hasn't been called out on in the past week.)
Can you show me a web site that shows that Hillary sent hundreds of e-mails to Bill advising him on policy? I don't think so.
Who was behind Clinton's failed health care reform ? (Hint...it was called "Hillary Care")
Who took care of the "bimbo eruptions" ?
I guess it's OK, or unnewsworthy when a democrat does it.
How did Todd's advice hurt Sarah ? Was his advive worse for her than Hillary's was to Bill ?
I can show you where she attempted control a huge part of the national economy when she took her shot at nationalized health care - all done behind closed doors.
You've hit crabby with facts!
The forecast calls for a 90% chance of disappearance.
You and others are quick with comments, but no proof, no links to information. You are very quick to call names. I guess you realize you are stepping in it again. :laugh:
I think my question in the OP is a fair one. If Sarah ran for president who would we really be voting for, Sarah or the "First Hunk?"
Bell said, "Uh-oh.
I see opinions, but I see no references to credible information. Can you supply them?
Clinton is the past. We cannot do anything about that era now. So, let's look to the future.
I will disappear for a good part of today and maybe tomorrow. We have two feet of snow and it is still coming down. Time to get the snow blower out and clear my driveway and help the neighbors. Cheers.
Uhhhh... Isn't that name calling?
More Crabby hypocrisy.
You need a reference to confirm that Hillary Clinton ran the last healthscare scam?
Is your memory really that bad?
But Bush isn't in the past?
More Crabby hypocrisy.
Help your neighbors?
Bragging about your charitable works?
OK, so let me get this straight: You criticize Palin for hubby's involvement. You say that's bad.
You ignore Hillary's involvement in Bill's administration. That's OK, by you.
When your double standard is pointed out, you respond with an anorexic line of reasoning: "I'm looking forward, not backward." Yet, Hillary is likely to run again for President.
Which is it, Crabby? Are you looking back, or not? Why is it OK for Billary's admin, but not Sarahtodd?
It's OK...you don't have to answer...because at the end of your post, we see this:
It's pretty obvious to me that even you recognized you've been called out on your double standard and intellectual dishonesty. Even you know your arguments are being pounded into dust. How convenient for you that the weather is cooperating. At least it saves you from having to come up with a less plausible reason to bail on this losing argument of yours.
Well, I must admit that you have one standard, the Republicans can do no wrong and the Democrats can do no right.
In my OP I simply ask a question. I did not make a judgmental statement. You took it as a negative ... that is your problem not mine.
I am sure Bill and Hillary had discussions. I expect every president and governor does have discussions with their spouse. Eleanor Roosevelt certainly made her views known. But, I do not think there was ever any doubt that FDR was president. With the revelation of hundreds of e-mails it does make a person wonder who was really making the decisions.
My guess it really does not matter now. I think Sarah's political life is over. I think she is making too much money with her book, her lectures and especially with Fox to consider running again.
Do you think she will run for any political office in the future?
If you need proof for Hillary's "co-presidential" involvement, you would need proof that bovine excrement has an odor!
This is a new low for even you Crabby!
'Course desperate times (the collapse of "OMAMA CARE") call for desperate measures (fishing for ANYTHING with which to clobber the conservatives and shift the focus off the failed policies of HIS MAJESTY).
What? Accusations with no proof, reference or link?
More Crabby hypocrisy.
You reveal your bias with your own words.
" If Sarah ran for president who would we really be voting for, Sarah or the "First Hunk?"
More Crabby hypocrisy.
You have to be kidding !!!
The Clintons made a huge deal about the co-presidency.
They made a huge deal of Hillary being in complete charge of the healthscare scam.
Then why did you go to all the trouble of starting a thread to slam her?
Could it be that Crabby, like all liberals (Rs & Ds), are scared to death of her, because the public initially responded so positively to her.
Whether she can or will attempt politics again is immaterial; she MIGHT, and they can't stand the idea of a woman that is pro-life, cooks, hunts, actually refused to abort a downs baby, etc---- may be in front of the American public for future public office.
She is the epitome of all the libs & NOW clatche despise; IOW a beautiful, intelligent, popular female, that did not bow to the liberals for help to get to where and what she is, and eschews basically the whole liberal philosophy!
Oh and one more critical point - she did all this w/o the advantage (yeah, right!!) of an Ivy League education. ('Course this was really an advantage since she missed(?) all that liberal trash that's coming from most schools now.:thumbs::thumbs
Then, on the other hand, it may be just because he's programmed to bash anything NOT OBAMA-ISH!:sleep:
Wow...It's amazing how intellectually dishonest you are. Does your conscience bother you when you lie?
Like I said...I would hope that when you lie like you do...that your conscience bothers you. Otherwise, that is a very ominous sign regarding your ethics and your character.
It is just silly to try and deny Hillary was not very involved in Bill Clinton's presidency. They even bragged about it as a benefit. It took me two seconds to find the quote.
In 1992, when he was running for president, Bill Clinton bragged that his brainy lawyer wife would give voters "two for the price of one."
That said, if her husband was involved to such a large degree I think that does hurt Palin. I am not a fan of any spouse being actively involved with someone voted for an elected office.
One need no further proof of your intellectual dishonesty than this.
Given your applause of the gay lifestyle, I'm very worried about you.
Nope. Show my claim is wrong.
From the India Times:
First, I am not a Sarah Palin fan. My view of her is not positive at all. Having said that, however, I don't see why this is a big issue. She is certainly not the first government official whose spouse played a major role in her decision making. I think Hillary/Bill Clinton are good examples of this. This story sounds like more it's okay for us but not okay for you politics. Both parties do it and I have sick of it.