Tokyo Electric to Build US Nuclear Plants:

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    The No BS Info on Japan's Disastrous Nuclear Operators

    I need to speak to you, not as a reporter, but in my former capacity as lead investigator in several government nuclear plant fraud and racketeering investigations.

    I don't know the law in Japan, so I can't tell you if Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) can plead insanity to the homicides about to happen.

    But what will Obama plead? The administration, just months ago, asked Congress to provide a $4 billion loan guarantee for two new nuclear reactors to be built and operated on the Gulf Coast of Texas - by TEPCO and local partners. As if the Gulf hasn't suffered enough. Here are the facts about TEPCO and the industry you haven't heard on CNN:

    The failure of emergency systems at Japan's nuclear plants comes as no surprise to those of us who have worked in the field.

    Nuclear plants the world over must be certified for what is called "SQ" or "Seismic Qualification." That is, the owners swear that all components are designed for the maximum conceivable shaking event, be it from an earthquake or an exploding Christmas card from al-Qaeda.

    The most inexpensive way to meet your SQ is to lie. The industry does it all the time. The government team I worked with caught them once, in 1988, at the Shoreham plant in New York. Correcting the SQ problem at Shoreham would have cost a cool billion, so engineers were told to change the tests from "failed" to "passed."

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    Japan victim of 'US nuclear disaster'

    The US knew about the faulty nuclear reactors now facing a catastrophic meltdown in Japan, yet still gave the green light to start energy production despite its consequences, a report says.

    The US-based company General Electric was forewarned of the critical engineering flaws in its water-cooled nuclear reactors which are currently in danger of undergoing a catastrophic meltdown in Japan.

    During the initial engineering of the nuclear reactor over 35 years ago, concerns were raised that the cooling system would not withstand a severe accident, following with the resignation of three GE employees, ABC News reported.

    Press TV

    President Barack Obama named Jeffrey Immelt, General Electric Co.’s chief executive officer, to head his outside panel of economic advisers, replacing former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker.

    Bloomberg



    Emergency Special Report: Japan's Earthquake, Hidden Nuclear Catastrophe

    Quake Monitor: Meltdown has started - Saturday 12 March (noon Japan time zone)

    Meltdown is underway. Japan's Industrial Nuclear Safety Agency reported that the radioactive isotopes cesium and iodine were detected by a monitoring station in the Fukushima No.1 nuclear power plant. The presence of these substances in air samples is a sure indicator that an uncontrolled chain reaction has started. Overheated uranium rods have eaten through their protective metal casings and have started nuclear fission. The regulatory agency's announcement overturns the earlier claim of plant operator TEPCO that all uranium rods were intact.


    Japanese nuclear disaster brought to you by the good folks at U.S. Govcorp Inc.

    Bet you aren't getting this information from Fox or CNN aka the corporate media. Which BTW is owned and controlled in a major way by guess who? General Electric.
     
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    First They Lie. Then They Cover Up.

    Mainstream media halts accurate reporting on Japan’s worsening nuclear catastrophe; disinfo campaign now underway

    (NaturalNews) Almost as if on cue, the mainstream media today halted nearly all accurate reporting of the worsening situation in Japan, writing off the whole thing as a “non issue.” This all happened in a seeming coordinate effort following President Obama’s speech on Wednesday that urged Americans to NOT prepare for anything. The American people, Obama insisted, should simply watch television to “stay informed.” Shortly after, mainstream television news returned to its regularly-scheduled sports and entertainment programming, barely touching on the reality of the worsening situation at the Fukushima nuclear power plant in Japan.

    Nuclear experts that were on mainstream news channels two days are now nowhere to be found today. Scary (but accurate) news stories about Fukushima have now been all but completely banned from the MSM. The word from the top is clearly that media outlets should start downplaying this nuclear accident, which even now ranks as the second worst nuclear accident in the history of human civilization (right after Chernobyl).

    The Asian media, for its part, simply started fabricating completely fictitious news. The press in China and Taiwan, for example, reported last night that grid power had been restored to the Fukushima reactor #2 and that the entire disaster had now been completely averted. This was a total fabrication: The truth is that power plant workers were pulled out of the area before they could even connect grid power, due to rising levels of extremely dangerous radiation near the plant.

    But don't worry folks our president the "leader of the free world" says, . . .

    In other words, Americans should do nothing other than listen to their government.
     
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    The legitimacy of your source is questionable, as usual.

    However, If CTs really want to be taken seriously, they have to avoid theses kinds of idiotic analogies:

     
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    And you offer nothing but opinion as usual.
     
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    Japan nuke plant operator fakes repair records

    OSAKA, Japan - Days before Japan plunged into an atomic crisis after a giant earthquake and tsunami knocked out power at the ageing Fukushima nuclear plant, its operator had admitted faking repair records.

    The revelation raises fresh questions about both Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO)'s scandal-tainted past and the government's perceived soft regulation of a key industry.

    The operator of the Fukushima No. 1 plant submitted a report to the country's nuclear watchdog ten days before the quake hit on March 11, admitting it had failed to inspect 33 pieces of equipment in its six reactors there.

    A power board distributing electricity to a reactor's temperature control valves was not examined for 11 years, and inspectors faked records, pretending to make thorough inspections when in fact they were only cursory, TEPCO said.

    It also said that inspections, which are voluntary, did not cover other devices related to cooling systems including water pump motors and diesel generators.

    The report was submitted after the regulator ordered operators to examine whether inspections were suitably thorough.

    "Long-term inspection plans and maintenance management were inadequate," the nuclear safety agency concluded in a follow-up report two days after TEPCO's admission. "The quality of inspection was insufficient."

    The safety agency ordered the operator to draw up a corrective plan by June 2.

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    Sunday, March 20, 2011


    Disaster analysis you may not hear elsewhere

    Citizens' Nuclear Information Center, a Tokyo-based nonprofit, has drawn non-establishment experts to its press conferences since the March 11 catastrophe.

    The organization, named the Citizens' Nuclear Information Center (CNIC), has provided information and opinions throughout on its website, and has also been holding daily press conferences to disseminate what it comes to know.

    One thing that has emerged above all else is the public's astonishment — and many experts' incredulity — that this nuclear plant and others in Japan were ever sited in the quake-prone places they were.

    "Unit (Reactor) 1 of the Fukushima Daiichi (No. 1) Nuclear Power Plant is in a state of meltdown. A nuclear disaster which the promoters of nuclear power in Japan said wouldn't happen is in progress," Philip White, CNIC's international liaison officer, said on its website on Saturday, March 12. "This could and should have been predicted."

    Japan Times

    Citizens Nuclear Information Center
     
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    Since CTs are basically just far out conclusions drawn from a few facts (IOW opinion), mine is worth at least as much as any ct's.

    Just because a Toshiba PC had to be repaired one time doesn't mean any, and every, reactor they build is faulty.

    That's a faulty over the top analogy that is so typical of a CT.
     
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    Let me see if understand your postion (if one can call it that). I'm trying to give people the whole story here by posting several articles containing important information that may be of some practical use to them and this bit about one reporter using a bad (?) analogy is all you can come up with?

    Tell us oh great and wise Carpro self appointed warrior of all that is "credible" why is it you choose not to comment on the "meat" of the subject but instead choose to place an emphasis on such a tiny and inconsequential part of the whole?

    Come up with something that is useful or pertinent to the subject matter at hand and I will be more than happy to discuss it with you. Otherwise, I will not be responding to any more of your meaningless replies. This topic is just far too important for such foolish distractions.


    Tokyo Electric may be held liable for nuclear plant explosions

    (Reuters) - Tokyo Electric Power could still be held liable for the problems at its nuclear power plant as the Japanese government has not yet decided whether to classify Friday's devastating earthquake an "exceptional" natural disaster.

    Japan's 1961 Act on Compensation for Nuclear Damage states the operator of a nuclear facility will not be responsible for any damage caused by their reactor if it was due to "a grave natural disaster of an exceptional character or by an insurrection."

    Insurers of the nuclear plant have already cited this law to signal that claims are unlikely to be made following the explosions.

    General Electric-designed reactors in Fukushima have 23 sisters in U.S.

    The General Electric-designed nuclear reactors involved in the Japanese emergency are very similar to 23 reactors in use in the United States, according to Nuclear Regulatory Commission records.

    The NRC database of nuclear power plants shows that 23 of the 104 nuclear plants in the U.S. are GE boiling-water reactors with GE's Mark I systems for containing radioactivity, the same containment system used by the reactors in trouble at the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant. The U.S. reactors are in Alabama, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Vermont.

    In addition, 12 reactors in the U.S. have the later Mark II or Mark III containment system from GE. These 12 are in Illinois, Louisiana, Mississippi, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Washington state. See the full list below.

    (General Electric is a parent company of msnbc.com through GE's 49 percent stake in NBCUniversal. NBCUniversal and Microsoft are equal partners in msnbc.com.)

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    The six reactors at the Fukushima Dai-ichi power plant, which had explosions on Saturday and Monday, are all GE-designed boiling-water reactors, known in the industry as BWRs. Five have containment systems of GE's Mark I design, and the sixth is of the Mark II type. They were placed in operation between 1971 and 1979.

    A fact sheet from the anti-nuclear advocacy group Nuclear Information and Resource Service contends that the Mark I design has design problems, and that in 1972 an Atomic Energy Commission member, Dr. Stephen Hanuaer, recommended that this type of system be discontinued.

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    In 1986, Harold Denton, then the NRC's top safety official, told an industry trade group that the "Mark I containment, especially being smaller with lower design pressure, in spite of the suppression pool, if you look at the WASH 1400 safety study, you'll find something like a 90% probability of that containment failing.

    "Some modifications have been made to U.S. Mark I reactors since 1986, although the fundamental design deficiencies remain.

    NIRS Fact Sheet
     
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    You chose the source. It's not my fault they use crackpot analogies. Did you bother to even read it before you posted it? You didn't recognize the over the top comparisons?

    Why is that?

    So...Stop whining.

    CTs never give the "whole" story. Only the part that lends credence to their "opinion".

    The puppets are dancing to the tune of their handlers. That's the explanation for everything. Right? :laugh:

    The lyrics change a little from time to time, but the CT tune is always the same. Puppets, handlers, masters, new world order...wall street...military industrial ...ad nauseum.

    Everyone but the purveyors of CTs is stupid and uninformed. Give it a rest.

    In this particular incident, I think most of us are aware of the problems and possible dangers. No one needs a crackpot CT to twist it around to make it seem like there is more to it than there is. It's a mess. All you're doing is muddying the waters to further your own crackpot theories.
     
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    Earthquake Hazard Maps Show How U.S. Shakes With Quakes

    Today, scientists at the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) are revealing how shaky the nation is by releasing an updated version of the USGS National Seismic Hazard Maps.

    Earthquakes remain a serious threat in 46 of the United States. For some areas such as western Oregon and Washington, the new maps contain higher estimates for how hard the ground will shake compared to earlier versions of the maps released in 1996 and 2002.

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    Japan Nuclear Disaster Caps Decades of Faked Reports, Accidents


    March 18 (Bloomberg) -- The unfolding disaster at the Fukushima nuclear plant follows decades of falsified safety reports, fatal accidents and underestimated earthquake risk in Japan's atomic power industry.

    The destruction caused by last week's 9.0 earthquake and tsunami comes less than four years after a 6.8 quake shut the world's biggest atomic plant, also run by Tokyo Electric Power Co. In 2002 and 2007, revelations the utility had faked repair records forced the resignation of the company's chairman and president, and a three-week shutdown of all 17 of its reactors.

    San Fransico Chronicle

    Botched Container?

    Mitsuhiko Tanaka, 67, working as an engineer at Babcock Hitachi K.K., helped design and supervise the manufacture of a $250 million steel pressure vessel for Tokyo Electric in 1975. Today, that vessel holds the fuel rods in the core of the No. 4 reactor at Fukushima's Dai-Ichi plant, hit by explosion and fire after the tsunami.

    Tanaka says the vessel was damaged in the production process. He says he knows because he orchestrated the cover-up. When he brought his accusations to the government more than a decade later, he was ignored, he says.

    The accident occurred when Tanaka and his team were strengthening the steel in the pressure vessel, heating it in a furnace to more than 600 degrees Celsius (1,112 degrees Fahrenheit), a temperature that melts metal. Braces that should have been inside the vessel during the blasting were either forgotten or fell over. After it cooled, Tanaka found that its walls had warped.

    'Felt Like a Hero'

    The law required the flawed vessel be scrapped, a loss that Tanaka said might have bankrupted the company. Rather than sacrifice years of work and risk the company's survival, Tanaka used computer modeling to devise a way to reshape the vessel so that no one would know it had been damaged. He did that with Hitachi's blessings, he said.
    "I saved the company billions of yen," Tanaka said in an interview March 12, the day after the earthquake. Tanaka says he got a 3 million yen bonus ($38,000) from Hitachi and a plaque acknowledging his "extraordinary" effort in 1974. "At the time, I felt like a hero."

    That changed with Chernobyl. Two years after the world's worst nuclear accident, Tanaka went to the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry to report the cover-up he'd engineered more than a decade earlier. Hitachi denied his accusation and the government refused to investigate.

    SOURCE

    Tokyo Electric in 2002 admitted it had falsified repair reports at nuclear plants for more than two decades. Chairman Hiroshi Araki and President Nobuyama Minami resigned to take responsibility for hundred of occasions on which the company had submitted false data to the regulator.

    Then in 2007, the utility said it hadn't come entirely clean five years earlier. It had concealed at least six emergency stoppages at its Fukushima Dai-Ichi power station and a "critical" reaction at the plant's No. 3 unit that lasted for seven hours.

    Coming Clean

    Kansai Electric Power Co., the utility that provides Osaka with electricity, said it also faked nuclear safety records. Chubu Electric Power Co., Tohoku Electric Power Co. and Hokuriku Electric Power Co. said the same.


    Gamma Radiation In Fukushima-Downwind Ibaraki Disclosed, 30 Times Above Normal

    For all who have been looking for realtime radiation data from Japan, you are in luck. Or maybe not, as the data unfortunately indicates nothing good. The System for Prediction of Environment Emergency Dose Information (SPEEDI) releases gamma radiation data online. The site is jittery and apparently not suited for major traffic which is why we represent several screen captures of the data. While it is not surprising that according to the website both Miyagi and Fukushima prefectures are entirely "Under Survey" as it makes sense that the government does not want to generate panic, SPEEDI has disclosed some tell-tale data about cities in Ibaraki prefecture, which is just a hundred or so miles north of Tokyo, and is just south of the ill-fated Fukushima prefecture.

    And the data is stunning: based on a N, NE and NNE wind direction (where it originates), meaning all coming from Fukushima, with a normal reading in the 80 nGy/h range, the city of Kounosu Naka is at 3,024, Kadobe Naka is at 2,416, Isobe Hitachioota is at 1,213 and many others are in the mid to upper triple digit range! Again, this is based on wind coming out of Fukushima and ultimately headed toward the capital. Indicatively, normal terrestrial plus cosmic gamma radiation is about 80 nGy/h.

    SOURCE
     
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