Top Analyst Thinks San Bernardino Massacre was False Flag

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  1. poncho

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  2. InTheLight

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    Every. Single. Time.
     
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    I can't stand listening to Alex Jones. he annoys me to no end. He can't ever just get to the point he has to drag it all out and bring in all kinds of unnecessary details. Get to the point already.
     
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    I knew someone would say it but it's sad when we see it anyway.
     
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    Dr. Pieczenik was the principal International Crisis Manager and Hostage Negotiator under Secretaries Kissinger and Vance. During this time he developed conflict resolution techniques that were instrumental in saving over five hundred hostages in different terrorist episodes, including the Hanafi Muslim Siege in Washington, DC, the TWA Croatian Hijacking, the Aldo Moro Kidnapping, the JRA Hijacking, the PLO Hijacking, and many other incidents involving terrorists such as Idi Amin, Muammar Quaddafi, Carlos, FARC, Abu Nidal and Saddam Hussein. Based on these experiences, Dr. Pieczenik, along with other senior officials at the State Department developed the mandate to create Delta Force and other quick-strike special forces units that could be used in future hostage situations and international crises. Dr. Pieczenik resigned over President Carter's handling of the Iran Hostage siege. He was recruited by Dr. Richard Solomon to the RAND Corporation in Santa Monica, CA to develop the strategy and tactics using the principles of psychological warfare to dismantle the Soviet Union without the use of military force.

    He was subsequently recruited into the Reagan Policy Planning Staff at the State Department. While at the State Department, Dr. Pieczenik was tasked with creating and implementing regime change in Panama to overthrow General Manuel Noriega. As a result, General Noriega repeatedly accused Dr. Pieczenik in the Panamanian newspaper, La Critica, of being an "assassin" and neutralizing several of Noriega's associates. This is a charge Dr. Pieczenik neither confirms nor denies.

    Dr. Pieczenik helped develop negotiation strategies for major U.S.- Soviet arms control summits under the Reagan administration. He was also involved in advising senior officials on important psycho-political dynamics and conflict mediation strategies for President Carter's successful Camp David Peace Conference. In 1991, Dr. Pieczenik was a chief architect of the Cambodian Peace Conference in Paris.

    https://stevepieczenik.com/bio.html
     
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    That's because there isn't much substance. He has to keep talking about other stuff and bring in other subjects to make it sound like he's saying something important.
     
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    I have poor patience when people just ramble on which is also the reason I do not read the many long posts we often see.
     
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    Uh, hello? Earth to baptistborg, earth to baptistborg. Dr. Pieczenik is calling this a false flag event not Alex Jones.

    You should give yourselves a dumb rating if you couldn't figure that out. Duh, even the title of this thread makes that clear.

    Top Analyst Thinks San Bernardino Massacre was False Flag

    I repeat, duh. O O

    Dr. Steve Pieczenik: False flag for the Obama anti-gun agenda

    MULTIPLE WITNESSES REPORTED THREE WHITE MEN SHOOTING

    http://www.infowars.com/san-bernard...-witnesses-reported-three-white-men-shooting/

    Again, Dr. Steve Pieczenik is not Alex Jones. Neither are the eye witnesses.


    Ten questions THEY don't want you to ask

    Continue . . . http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/12/06/holes/


    Pieczenik was deputy assistant secretary of state under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance and James Baker.[3] His expertise includes foreign policy, international crisis management and psychological warfare.[7] He served the presidential administrations of Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush in the capacity of deputy assistant secretary.[8]

    In 1974, Pieczenik joined the U.S. State Department as a consultant to restructure its Office for the Prevention of Terrorism.[2]

    In 1976, Pieczenik was made deputy assistant secretary of state for management.[2][5][9][10]

    At the State Department, he served as a "specialist on hostage taking."[11] He has been credited with devising successful negotiating strategies and tactics used in several high profile hostage situations including the 1976 TWA Flight 355 hostage situation and the 1977 kidnapping of the son of Cyprus' president.[2] He was involved in negotiations for the release of Aldo Moro after Moro was kidnapped.[12] As a renowned psychiatrist, he was utilized as a press source for early information on the mental state of the hostages involved in the Iranian Hostage Crisis after they were freed.[13] In 1977, Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist Mary McGrory described Stephen Pieczenik as "one of the most 'brilliantly competent' men in the field of terrorism."[14] He worked "side by side" with Police Chief Maurice J. Cullinane in the Washington, D.C. command center of Mayor Walter Washington during the 1977 Hanafi Siege.[15] In 1978, Pieczenik was known as "a psychiatrist and political scientist in the U.S. State Department whose credentials and experiences are probably unique among officials handling terrorist situations."[2]

    Continue . . . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Pieczenik

    IMHO Dr. Steve Pieczenik has more credibility under one his fingernails than all of the know it all's that make up the baptistborg put together. Apparently the baptistborg disagree.

    But what's new right?
     
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    It seems that every time something happens, these false flag reports come out. Some of the information, if true, would cause serious doubts in my mind about the truth of the official reports we get from the media.

    The Holocaust, FDR and Pearl Harbor, JFK, MLK, RFK, Moon Landings, Columbine, Sandy Hook, every mass shooting, everything is declared a fake by someone, and they claim to have the proof to back their claims..

    I just don't trust the media, or the politicians in this country anymore to tell the truth, about anything.

    At least I have one Person in my life that I can count on all the time!
     
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    So what if Pieczenik said it? He's a pathological liar.
     
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    And top drawer space cadet.
     
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    Time to apply Occam's Razor.
     
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    Like this?


    "In practice, Occam's Razor is used to cut away elements of theories which cannot be observed."

    "Conspiracy theories generally entail the opposite of Occam's Razor. That is, when explaining observations, the conspirators often propose more complicated explanations than the commonly believed story. Their conclusions often require us to believe in additional postulated events or factors for which there is seldom any direct proof."

    "But it is a big deal when one conspiracist's theory, taken as a whole, propounds into a looming mass of unfounded speculation. Instead of the typical process of looking at all the possibilities and deciding which of them best makes sense, conspiracists generally follow a line of reasoning which first demands that the conspiracy exist. They then follow whatever tortured path of conjecture is necessary to arrive at that conclusion."
     
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    Yeup
     
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    So the argument from the baptistborg is "this guy is a nut" and "that guy is a kook".

    Questioning the "official story" is "dumb".

    Those who question the "official story" are being insensitive towards the victims.

    Basically the same non arguments the liberals use to shut down debate.

    I suppose next the baptistborg is going demand arresting people that violate their "safe spaces".:eek:
     
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    Same old expected response from a Jones cultist.
     
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    Another dumb bomb From Carpro. I must have really threatened his safe space. Laugh
     
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    I know. It's not nearly as well thought out as your brilliant response. :)
     
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    I love you guys that make up the baptistborg. I really do. You're all so quick to point out that thinking for yourself means thinking like everyone else.

    George Orwell must have had you guys in mind when he was writing 1984.

    I have to hand it to you guys though you stand your ground. No matter how many times the government and media gets caught lying and manipulating you you still believe they are the only credible source of information.

    That takes determination. Bravo.
     
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