Torture Definition Contest Revisited

I note this form of torture was not used prior to the invention of electricity.

Mark 5:25-26 (HCSB)
A woman suffering from bleeding for 12 years
26 had endured much under many doctors. She had spent everything she had, and was not helped at all. On the contrary, she became worse

'endured' here might as well be 'tortured'. Here, of course, it was not torture of people trying to collect information but the 'practice' (nothing for real, just 'practice' ) of medicine.

 

"Torture" is decidedly un-Christian.

But so is support for abortion...

and there are plenty of posters here that support those who advocate killing babies.

The real fun part is that the same posters who don't mind supporting those who kill babies are the same ones who are so deeply offended by what they coinsider to be torture.

 

And I thank God for His mercies!:godisgood:

 

Poncho of the Twilight Zone and Matt Wade of wherever.

I posted the following mocking definition because poncho of the Twilight Zone started a thread using a leftist post by a leftist senator whose only purpose in life is to persecute Republicans and convert this country to socialism. It is asinine to expect anything approaching civility from most of the dems in Congress and beyond asinine to expect them to put the good of the country first.

President Bush was urged to investigate certain misdeeds of the Clinton administration, including Holder's role in certain pardons, but he refused. Now that sorry bunch of democrats in congress can't wait to crucify Bush and Cheney, even if it destroys the country.

So once again my definition of torture is being forced:

1. To realize that the name of our greatest president is used on a left wing blog.

2. To read anything posted on a left wing trash blog like the Huffington post.

3. To consider that the uber leftist Senator Leahy is chairman of the Judiciary committee.

4. To wake up each morning and realize that I am not in the Twilight Zone [like poncho] and that Czar obama is really president.

5. To realize that this person seems obsessed with the destruction of this country.

6. To realize that this person made obeisance to the ruler of the two most revered sites in Islam.

7. To wonder each time I read of this person if he is a closed Muslim.

:thumbs::godisgood:

 

And some support those who would kill babies after they are born.:tear::tear:

 

I don't agree with your assessment.

Pointing out that the discussion is decidedly bias in the news and public arena is not the same as endorsing the practice. Pointing out that our very own military is subjected to the same exercises to induce stress and harden them to move past the point of discomfort and fear..... is not meant to defend the practice either, but is intended to inform the uninformed who may not be aware of the shocking truth regarding the regimine our soldiers may have to endure.... just to train for deployment into enemy terrortory.

I would surmise that such training may actually add stressors and anxiety to those who are in the military and instead of building physical and psychological defenses and strengths.... actually compound the combat experience and set more soldiers up for an emotional response of depression and post traumatic stress disorder. I was apalled when I first heard of this.... that both male and female soldiers are going through this added training.

The old ways of where a soldier was yelled at, cursed, and humiliated by screaming and unsympathetic instructors, and required to perform menial tasks with neglible purpose was designed to develop self control of or breaking the normal and natural emotional response to stressors so that a soldier could perform his orders with emotional detachment. However, the introduction of pain and added discomfort to the point of developing anticipation and fear of outcomes, is a modern level of behavioral modification in training which I feel no normal and civil society should allow as a practice of military training. That this emotional detachment may occur in the training and combat situation does not establish that there is a personal awareness of feelings..... which are temporarially buried..... and may explode unexpectedly into actions of violence, depressions, nightmares, and self loathing in situations in which one's own defenses are lowered due to lack of external threats..... such as return to home and community or other non combat situations. Subjecting human beings to abuse does not necessarily mean it will make abusers of them ......but breaking their sensitivity to pain may raise too high their level of perception and understanding if and when an opportunity presents itself for them to inflict the same on others..... regardless of cause or trigger.

I'm against abortion. I'm also against torture. And I'm also against unjust wars which are contrived to advance the corporate bottom line of the war industry at the expense of our soldiers and their families, increased enslavement to war debts and taxes, and to manipulate and play upon the fears of people to welcome the curtailments of their rights and privileges as independant and sovereign citizens to a power which wants to control us.

 

Poncho of the Twilight Zone I see you are still using "uber" leftist sources . The NY Times is the prime source of secret information for our enemies.

 

And all this time I thought it was some dems mad because Gore couldn't steal the election.

 

I left out one item in my definition of torture!

 

Is there something wrong with the water in Florida?

 

Maybe that's it. My water DOES NOT CONTAIN FLOURIDE! :laugh:







Maybe that means I'm under medicated!:thumbs:

 

I expect there are many here that won't.

Most of them don't mind suppporting those that advocate the unrestricted murder of millions of babies, but object strenuously to the sleep deprivation of a terrorist to halt the murder of thousands of Americans.

They just haven't crawled out from under their rocks to protest it yet.

 

From a blog on the Internet, the really bad psychological torture:

 

This statement is quite telling. How does ripping apart innocent lives in the womb without benefit of pain medication fit into your torture agenda? I would guess from your above statement, that it doesn't, leading me to believe your priorities are skewed. This is what is so disheartening about the liberal agenda, and what is so messed up: don't splash water in the face of a terrorist who is out to kill you, but some poor innocent baby in the womb doesn't deserve the chance to live. Give me a break.

 

Ed

In the past I have been critical of your posts, some times in a humorous manner because of the way you post. At othertimes I was not humorous because I disagreed with you. Your above post goes too far.

Frankly I do not have the words to express my disgust. For a professing Christian to make such a statement as above is beyond comprehension. It is pathetic. 50 million unborn babies have been slaughtered since 1973. Not one person died by the enhanced interrogation procedures used on the terrorists.

I believe that I have been saved by the Grace of God only because He chose me to salvation in Jesus Christ before the foundation of the world.

I hope you will prayerfully consider the following Scripture. I believe some of your recent posts, particularly the one above, have expressed opinions that are considered an abomination by the LORD.

Proverbs 6:16-19
16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

 

OldRegular: // Not one person died by the enhanced interrogation procedures used on the terrorists. //

You do NOT know this. Your whole argument hinges on the truth of that statement.

Nations and Civilizations have been destroyed by God for mistreating BORN persons and for torture. I know of no nation that has been destroyed for committing abortion.

OldRegular: // In the past I have been critical of your posts, some times in a humorous manner because of the way you post. At othertimes I was not humorous because I disagreed with you. Your above post goes too far. //

There is no way you have the right to say stuff like that to me. I have spent 36 years working to assure that you (Old Regular) have the right to share your inane opinions.

BTW, I'm anti-abortion. Those who can read notice I said:

// BTW, to me the 'torture public problem' is more important to us resident aliens than the 'abortion public problem' or the so called 'pro-life problem' or the so called 'pro-abortion problem' //

// And the stand of President Obama is much better on the 'torture public problem' than the stand of Former President Bush. //

Those who can think will notice that i did NOT say that 'abortion public problem' is of no importance.

You are a resident alien also? All Christians are resident aliens of this world. Do I have to look up the scripture for you?

BTW, I was never impressed by 'body counts'. That was what the government tried to sell us in Vietnam.

 

So 50 million slaughtered babies is just a body count and you claim to be against abortion!

 

All I can say is wow!

 

I see no need to keep trying to satisfy the requirements of others who cannot be satisfied.

BTW, I do have side arms, I do know how to use them, and I am committed to pray for the damned soul after I blow them away. I will blow away people who trespass on my home after dark. As such, I am NOT pro-life I am anti-low-life. I believe when a person dies they have missed their last chance to be saved.

 

Well, Ed, why would you blow anyone away when Jesus said to turn the other cheek?