Total Depravity = Hardening?

Translation: If you have half a brain, then you would be (remain) a calvinist.

 

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

 

Seems like it dont it.....:wavey:

 

It isn't a matter of using only a small percentage of their brain that is the problem with reformers. It's the dependence on their beloved reformers of the past, such as Calvin, in place of the clear teachings of scripture that is the problem. No one reading the bible would come up with this erroneous system. It takes extra-biblical teaching to become a Calvinist.

 

Isnt that why it takes more than "half a brain"?

 

Maybe Rush Limbaugh is a Calvinist. He is always talking about having half his brain tied behind his back. :laugh:

 

The above is false to the core.

 

I think we have proven that we start with Christ.And the suggestion of systematic Christianity is erroneous is just stunningly superficial.

 

Using the calvinist understanding of "all" I see?

 

Do you know why your hermenentics fail? Because it attempts to pass down the unbiblical assumptions of those who came before. All of there mistakes you receive as the gospel truth when all the while we have the Holy Spirit who teaches us. You place your hermeneutics above scripture.

We have no need of teachers who pass down all the mistakes of the past. Calvinism does not teach grace in actuallity. What it claims as grace isn't true grace at all. It just isn't graceful to offer Salvation to a particular few while condemning others to hell with out recourse. There simply is no grace in Calvinism. There is no submission in Calvinism there fore there is no grace. Calvinism only offers particularism, for those who want to be particularist. The grace you may have received certainly isn't because of your failing hermeneutics or what Calvinism teaches.
MB

 

OK, how do you know your dealing with the Holy Spirit? And why are you taking it on yourself to explain grace. If God tells you something that you dont like do you tell him, " No I find it not fair & by my interpretation its just not biblical"? Admit it, your a humanist.

 

Please respond to my post in #57.

The passage is John 10:19:38.
Verse 19 indicates a division among the Jews. Some of them said that he had a devil. Some believed. Jesus appealed to his works or his miracles as evidence of his deity.
Then he said: Those that hear, follow. (Those are the ones that believe). To them he gives eternal life. Those ones will never perish. Notice that hearing the Word of God comes first.

In the second group, they also hear the Word of God. They heard and understood distinctly what Christ meant when he said "I and my Father are one (vs.30), but they rejected his words of their own free will. In fact His words made them very angry. They tried to stone him. They made it very clear that it wasn't for the miracles that they were stoning him, but for the fact that he, being a man, was claiming to be God and (to them), that was blasphemy.

That was not only a rejection of the Word of God (the words of Jesus), but a rejection of the Holy Spirit, or the conviction of the Holy Spirit. They were resisting the Holy Spirit's conviction on their lives. That is why they were so angry.

Others had heard and accepted his word, and gladly became his sheep. They had made that choice, and had received eternal life as a result of the choice that they made. No one forced them.
Both heard the Word of God, and both reacted in very different ways. Both will be held accountable for the decision that they made.

As an anecdote when I was younger I used to go door to door visitation. When I got back the pastor would ask:
"Did you make anyone glad?"
No.
"Did you make anyone sad?"
No.
"Then you have failed. The gospel with either make one glad (saved), or mad (under conviction of the Holy Spirit so that he will be angry at you like the Jews were angry at Jesus).

He wasn't totally serious; he was only teaching a truth. For many are simply apathetic toward the gospel, and we both knew that.
But in John 10, it wasn't so.

 

So what your saying is the group that was rejecting Jesus were given the call by God, right?

 

Absolutely. "God is not willing that any should perish..."

For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, (Titus 2:11)

 

. . . but only the better ones accepted it . . .

 

They are certainly in a better state because they accepted it.

 

Begger

If you are meek and humble and trust in the name of the Lord, you are a begger deserving nothing only getting what the Master has promissed you.

We who come know what the price of our sin is, death. We are saved by grace, because we haven't paid our debt Jesus did.

Trust in the Lord and we will not be disappointed or put to shame what a promise.