TPA: Backdoor to Enforcement of UN's Arms Trade Treaty

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  1. poncho

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    Most pundits and politicians are claiming that the Trade Promotion Authority (TPA) is no more than a statutory acknowledgment of a power already possessed by the president to promote “free trade.”

    For example, presidential candidate and senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas) explained his recent vote in favor of the TPA this way:

    Historically, since FDR virtually every president has had fast track authority. What fast track provides is simply if a free trade agreement is negotiated, that Congress will vote on it up or down without amendments and history has demonstrated for the last 80 years that the only way to get free trade agreements adopted is to have fast track. That if there is no fast track, free trade agreements do not end up being negotiated.

    There is something much more sinister at work here, however, and it involves not just trade in goods, but trade in arms, as well.

    Consider this: If Congress grants the president the power to unilaterally negotiate and contract trade agreements with foreign powers, these “executive agreements” can cover any topic that the White House considers “trade.”

    That includes firearms.

    Read More At: http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/21071-tpa-backdoor-to-enforcement-of-u-n-s-arms-trade-treaty
     
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    So why would GOP Congressmen who represent members of the GOP who claim that Obama thinks he's an emperor or King be supporting something that gives the President more unilateral power?Hmmm.
     
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    Uh, because both parties and the mass media are owned and controlled by the same global corporate elite?
     
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    Ssshhhhh. Now you've gone and done it!!! :laugh:
     
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    The op is missing some information and therefore misleading. Ted Cruz also said that TPA requires that congress determine the boundaries that the President can negotiate under. The reason for the up or down vote is because the President has supposedly stuck to the boundaries set by congress. Ted Cruz said he supports TPA because it keeps the President in those boundaries set by Congress.

    Now whether one like this or not is one thing but to intentionally leave that info out to make this appear worse that what it is, is just dishonest.
     
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    Coming from someone that makes claims he cannot support with evidence then disappears when asked to provide the evidence he does not have seems kind of . . . oh, what's that word?
     
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    Is that all you got? You can't actually defend the dishonest op so you move toward personal attack that you are so well known for and the reason why you usually do not get responses.

    So the question is can you defend the dishonesty of the op?
     
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    Isn't that enough? You've posted things that are untrue and when asked to defend your own dishonesty you disappear . . . poof!

    Only to come back in a different thread to complain if you think I might be acting like you.

    Personal attack? It's not a personal attack to point out your hypocrisy.

    Especially when you're so adamant about flaunting it.

    The real deal here (what really irks you) is you don't like seeing evidence on top of more evidence that a global corporate elite own and control the government and mass media and you don't want to see a debate about it. The truth doesn't need to be debated. It just needs to be revealed.

    Oh and what's so important about getting responses? You need someone to agree with you. I don't. I chase the evidence not the consensus.


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    Despite the seemingly strong empirical support in previous studies for theories of majoritarian democracy, our analyses suggest that majorities of the American public actually have little influence over the policies our government adopts. Americans do enjoy many features central to democratic governance, such as regular elections, freedom of speech and association, and a widespread (if still contested) franchise. But we believe that if policymaking is dominated by powerful business organizations and a small number of affluent Americans, then America’s claims to being a democratic society are seriously threatened.

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    In response to the publication of an academic study that essentially proves the United States is nothing more than an oligarchy, many commentators have quipped sentiments that go something like “so tell me something I don’t know.” While I agree that the conclusion is far from surprising to anyone paying attention, the study is significant for two main reasons.

    http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2014/04/16/new-report-from-princeton-and-northwestern-proves-it-the-u-s-is-an-oligarchy/
     
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    The thing that irks him about your posts Poncho is that you make it clear that the party he fawns over so much is just as corrupt as the one he hates. :laugh:

    You've taken away his security blanket and left him standing naked in the rain.[​IMG]
     
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    Gee that's to bad. Maybe the rain will clear his vision so he can see what's been right in front of his eyes for years. People like him need the illusion of opposing sides. It's all they've ever known, they'd be lost without it.

    Ted Cruz joins the establishment

    Establishment, globalist advocates published what will go down as the most disingenuous, deceitful and outright dishonest promotional piece on behalf of the so-called fast-track trade authority that could have been written. Authored by establishment GOP Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and heretofore "conservative" Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), the op-ed in The Wall Street Journal is a compilation of talking points and slick dodges. It is textbook propaganda that would make the disinformation experts of the KGB blush.

    The dynamic duo start by asserting that the U.S. must "strengthen the country's bargaining position” by giving President Obama fast-track powers. Really? The GOP Congress thinks it is vital to our national interest to expand the powers in Obama's hands? And, what exactly "strengthens" our bargaining power? So the only way to win a deal is by convincing foreign governments that the U.S. Congress will be limited in what it can say on the matter? Are we to tell the world that the people and their elected representatives will be sidelined so a "deal" can be done?

    Next, Ryan and Cruz assert that the American worker has been placed at a terrible disadvantage to workers in the rest of the world and that we have to give Obama more power in order to address this serious problem. But, of course, nowhere is there a mention of the fact that a big part of that "disadvantage" is currency manipulation and other financial gimmicks — issues that are expressly kept out of the trade deal. I guess nobody told these gentlemen that the primary weapon being used against American workers and business is not going to be discussed. Had they been allowed to read and review the so-called deal — the Trans-Pacific Partnership — they might have known that. But sadly, the Obama administration has kept the "deal" under lock and key — virtually nobody has been allowed to view it.

    But this is a minor matter compared to the bald-faced falsehoods that follow. The congressional odd couple assert that Congress will demand three things from Obama, three "requirements" that will protect the nation. In truth, all three are hollow shells; the tools of bait and switch that have used to con America in the past. And what are three shells of the con game?


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    What is most troubling, however, is the disdain the advocates of this deal have for the American people. They babble on and on about abstract economic "benefits" when, in fact, trade is but a minor part of the matter. No less an authority than The Washington Post stated in an April 13 editorial that the treaty and fast track are "about geopolitics as well as economics."

    These treaties are in fact far more about "politics" than economics or trade. These treaties are world governance infrastructure; they are big steps away from the Constitution, national sovereignty and independence. All the trade talk, all the blather about jobs and the confusing stream of questionable statistics are designed to cover the real thrust of these treaties: the expansion of international and globalist interests.

    Why the GOP in Congress embraces the very process that would destroy it is a subject for another day, but it is enough to recognize that when they come to citizens begging for votes and donations claiming to defend the Constitution and our system of liberty, that they are being duplicitous Yet again, they treat the grass roots and the conservative base with contempt.

    For Ryan to do this is expected, but Cruz's shilling for this big lie may be the last straw for those who became known as Tea Party supporters. The irony is that if they give up hope that America can be restored because they no longer have a champion, who is going to vote for Ted Cruz?

    The answer is no one.


    Continue . . . http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/international/239750-ted-cruz-joins-the-establishment
     
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